"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t> wrote in message
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> Hello there,
>
> Back to the Shell project.....
>
> To refresh, the shell has a system tray (API Listview) , task swapper (VB
> Listview), full owner-draw icon start menu (OCX), and on the interface
> form is a label for the clock and 3 command buttons.
>
> I'm past the initial coding stages and am doing some house cleaning. I
> thought one way to clean up was to create a couple of controls. One for
> the task swapper and one for the system tray. I know that wouldn't help
> on resources, but it would help with cleaning up the code in the main
> form.
>
> I started with the task swapper, as that was a VB LV, the system tray is
> an API LV. So I proceeded to make the task swapper control. It's a
> complete task swapper, with app context menu support built in, so drop it
> on a form, call it's .tasksUpdate sub and there it is. The OCX is 84k.
>
> Here's the issue. The entire shell compiled and run as an EXE typically
> uses about 9.3 megs of RAM.
>
> In the test project I used to test the control, when compiled, with only
> the task swapper control on it, uses 6.3 megs of RAM ! Just a blank form,
> the same blank form, uses about 1.2 megs, so the control uses the other
> 5.1 ?!
>
> Is that typical behavior for an OCX ? And why ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> DanS
>

> I am curious about your project and look forward to seeing it.  :-)
>
> - Kev
>

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t> wrote in message
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> "Kevin Provance" <ca***@tpasoft.com> wrote in
> news:u4ON7DYQGHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
>> By no means do I mean to impune your work and in all honesty I would
>> love to see your shell replacement...but VB is no language to write a
>> shell replacement in.  It's just too damn bulky and too much overhead
>> involved.
>
> So far I'm running at 9'ish megs of RAM, even after DAYS, even weeks,
> without a restart. I've _never_ seen Explorer running that low.
>
>>
>> I am curious though, does your shell run overtop of Explorer or
>> instead of? And if instead of, are you actually getting VB to load
>> outside of Windows?
>
> Why does _everyone_ think the windows shell is some black magic thing
> that means everything to windows running properly ?
>
> I've my shell set to be 'the' shell. It is set as the shell in the
> registry. It has a module that handles all startup programs. Explorer is
> used as a file manager only.
>
> All programs start and seem to run fine, with the exception of the search
> tool. By that, I mean if in Explorer and you right-click a folder and say
> 'Search', it doesn't. I provide a way to open the search tool though, but
> you just can't choose it from the Explorer context menu. WinRAR, WinZIP,
> NAV explorer extensions all work properly, as does the entire Explorer
> context menu (except for the aforementioned Search). Send To, cut, copy,
> paste, delete, etc., it's all a go.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> DanS
>
>> I am curious about your project and look forward to seeing it.  :-)
>>
>> - Kev
>>