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All About XP ..just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it
really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur password, how can u get it ?? "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in Not the right group but, it's stored, encrypted, in a file on the HD. The news:1138676970.153024.100480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it > really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur > password, how can u get it ?? > > SAMS file if I'm not mistaken. There is a built-in 'Administrator' account which is usually hidden on the Welcome screen. If this is a 'pre-configured' Dell or similar, the Administrator password will most likely be blank. Otherwise, you are prompted to enter one upon installion of XP. In XP you can access the standard Windows login box instead of the Welcome screen. To do this in XP Pro, at the Welcome screen you would do 2 ctrl-alt-del's. Then fill in Administrator. For XP home: Must be done in safe mode. http://support.microsoft.com/? kbid=290109 If it comes down to it, you could use a Windows password changing utility that you can find in several different flavors of on the internet. These would allow you to change the password of any account on the PC without having to know the correct password. This even applies to the built-in 'Administrator' account. Two of the correct groups for these Windows XP questions are: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics what do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not
familiar in ctrl-alt-del . "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in Then you haven't used any Windows prior to XP ?news:1138679332.887003.242880@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > what do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not > familiar in ctrl-alt-del . > Didn't you get one of these, the Microsoft Keyboard ? ... http://users.adelphia.net/~thisnthat/mskeyboard.jpg Do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not
familiar in ctrl-alt-del . "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in Then you haven't used any Windows prior to XP ?news:1138679348.373941.266220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not > familiar in ctrl-alt-del . > Didn't you get one of these, the Microsoft Keyboard? ... http://users.adelphia.net/~thisnthat/mskeyboard.jpg ohh .. coz i often use the "+" plus sign which mean add than "-" sign
mean minus .. after u say i have to press two ctrl-alt-del , it came in my mind and i read it as ctrl minus alt minus del .. coz i often see and use this one ctrl + alt + del which mean for me ctrl add alt add del .. ehehehheh .. Do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not
familiar with ctrl-alt-del . "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in Then you haven't used any Windows prior to XP ?news:1138679361.918169.239300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Do u mean 2 ctrl+alt+del not ctrl-alt-del ??? .. coz not i'm not > familiar with ctrl-alt-del . > Didn't you get one of these, the Microsoft Keyboard? ... http://users.adelphia.net/~thisnthat/mskeyboard.jpg ohh .. coz i often use the "+" plus sign which mean add than "-" sign
mean minus .. after u say i have to press two ctrl-alt-del , it came in my mind and i read it as ctrl minus alt minus del .. coz i often see and use this one ctrl + alt + del which mean for me ctrl add alt add del .. ehehehheh .. "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t> wrote in message It's not stored at all. It is hashed and then the HASH is stored.news:Xns975BE51B06EAAidispcom@216.196.97.142... > "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in > Not the right group but, it's stored, encrypted, in a file on the HD. The > SAMS file if I'm not mistaken.
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"Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB]" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in Sorry...it's stored, hashed, in a file on the HD. The SAMS file if I'm not news:#HGkSInJGHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl: > > "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t> wrote in message > news:Xns975BE51B06EAAidispcom@216.196.97.142... >> "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in > >> Not the right group but, it's stored, encrypted, in a file on the HD. >> The SAMS file if I'm not mistaken. > > It's not stored at all. It is hashed and then the HASH is stored. > > mistaken. (Hashing = one-way encryption) Hi,
I can say it is possible to reset your lost pass with Active@ Password Changer utility. That is a really useful tool. It's small and perform it's operation quickly. I've used it before and it helped me, I suppose you pay attention to this one piece of soft. http://www.password-changer.com/ No application should ever store passwords, what is stored is a one way hash
of the password, when a user enters their password it is hashed and compared to the stored hash, if they match the correct password was entered. Could you please explain what is the point of having a password if it can be retrieved, it would somewhat make the password pointless. The morals are: 1) Don't forget your password 2) Don't try to get hacking tips here by pretending to ask questions. Regards Dave O. Show quoteHide quote "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1138676970.153024.100480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it > really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur > password, how can u get it ?? > Adding:
When you store a Hashed password you should also include a Salt value (random and different for each stored hash value). This prevents hackers from using pre-hashed password lists (which are easily found) and a brute force method.... Info (even though the code is ASP it gives info in Hashing and Salt values): http://www.15seconds.com/issue/000217.htm -- Show quoteHide quoteChris Hanscom - Microsoft MVP (VB) Veign's Resource Center http://www.veign.com/vrc_main.asp Veign's Blog http://www.veign.com/blog -- "Dave" <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:%23rPU8WlJGHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > No application should ever store passwords, what is stored is a one way > hash of the password, when a user enters their password it is hashed and > compared to the stored hash, if they match the correct password was > entered. Could you please explain what is the point of having a password > if it can be retrieved, it would somewhat make the password pointless. > > The morals are: > 1) Don't forget your password > 2) Don't try to get hacking tips here by pretending to ask questions. > > Regards > Dave O. > > "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1138676970.153024.100480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it >> really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur >> password, how can u get it ?? >> > > Good idea, although hash codes are one of the few cases where "security
through obscurity" actually can work. Dave O. Show quoteHide quote "Veign" <NOSPAMinveign@veign.com> wrote in message news:e4inx1nJGHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Adding: > > When you store a Hashed password you should also include a Salt value > (random and different for each stored hash value). This prevents hackers > from using pre-hashed password lists (which are easily found) and a brute > force method.... > > Info (even though the code is ASP it gives info in Hashing and Salt > values): > http://www.15seconds.com/issue/000217.htm > > -- > Chris Hanscom - Microsoft MVP (VB) > Veign's Resource Center > http://www.veign.com/vrc_main.asp > Veign's Blog > http://www.veign.com/blog > -- > > > "Dave" <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:%23rPU8WlJGHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> No application should ever store passwords, what is stored is a one way >> hash of the password, when a user enters their password it is hashed and >> compared to the stored hash, if they match the correct password was >> entered. Could you please explain what is the point of having a password >> if it can be retrieved, it would somewhat make the password pointless. >> >> The morals are: >> 1) Don't forget your password >> 2) Don't try to get hacking tips here by pretending to ask questions. >> >> Regards >> Dave O. >> >> "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1138676970.153024.100480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>> just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it >>> really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur >>> password, how can u get it ?? >>> >> >> > > It amazes me how many people know nothing about hashing and are creating
applications (web) where they are storing passwords in an un-encrypted way. This is the reason I generate a new password for every login. -- Show quoteHide quoteChris Hanscom - Microsoft MVP (VB) Veign's Resource Center http://www.veign.com/vrc_main.asp Veign's Blog http://www.veign.com/blog -- "Dave" <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:OPJpmLoJGHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Good idea, although hash codes are one of the few cases where "security > through obscurity" actually can work. > > Dave O. > > > "Veign" <NOSPAMinveign@veign.com> wrote in message > news:e4inx1nJGHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> Adding: >> >> When you store a Hashed password you should also include a Salt value >> (random and different for each stored hash value). This prevents hackers >> from using pre-hashed password lists (which are easily found) and a brute >> force method.... >> >> Info (even though the code is ASP it gives info in Hashing and Salt >> values): >> http://www.15seconds.com/issue/000217.htm >> >> -- >> Chris Hanscom - Microsoft MVP (VB) >> Veign's Resource Center >> http://www.veign.com/vrc_main.asp >> Veign's Blog >> http://www.veign.com/blog >> -- >> >> >> "Dave" <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:%23rPU8WlJGHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> No application should ever store passwords, what is stored is a one way >>> hash of the password, when a user enters their password it is hashed and >>> compared to the stored hash, if they match the correct password was >>> entered. Could you please explain what is the point of having a password >>> if it can be retrieved, it would somewhat make the password pointless. >>> >>> The morals are: >>> 1) Don't forget your password >>> 2) Don't try to get hacking tips here by pretending to ask questions. >>> >>> Regards >>> Dave O. >>> >>> "angelito tan" <diamond_shoe1***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:1138676970.153024.100480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>>> just wondering where does the password go after it's created ??? coz it >>>> really make me confuse since i'm using xp .. what if u forgot ur >>>> password, how can u get it ?? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > 
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