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19 Sep 2005 1:16 PM
Guy Cohen
H all,

I wonder what should I do -

Keep using the latest common controls 6.

Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for WINXP
style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar buttons )

Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs (listview
etc)....)

Please advise.
Guy

Author
19 Sep 2005 12:31 PM
Jan Hyde
"Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:16:30 +0200 bearing the
following fruit:

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>H all,
>
>I wonder what should I do -
>
>Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>
>Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for WINXP
>style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar buttons )
>
>Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs (listview
>etc)....)
>
>Please advise.
>Guy

Only you can answer this. If you can manage without the
changes that are present in 6, and you feel the XP theme
support is sufficiently important then you don't have a lot
of choice.




Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Author
19 Sep 2005 1:51 PM
Guy Cohen
Thanks Jan,

Question : why should I prefer common controls 6 on 5?

Guy


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"Jan Hyde" <StellaDrin***@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com> wrote in message
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> "Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
> released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:16:30 +0200 bearing the
> following fruit:
>
>>H all,
>>
>>I wonder what should I do -
>>
>>Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>>
>>Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for
>>WINXP
>>style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar
>>buttons )
>>
>>Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs (listview
>>etc)....)
>>
>>Please advise.
>>Guy
>
> Only you can answer this. If you can manage without the
> changes that are present in 6, and you feel the XP theme
> support is sufficiently important then you don't have a lot
> of choice.
>
>
>
>
> Jan Hyde (VB MVP)
>
> --
> Did you hear about the guy who blamed arithmetic for his divorce?
> His wife put two and two together.
>
> (Art. Moger)
>
> [Abolish the TV Licence - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]
>
Author
19 Sep 2005 1:53 PM
Jan Hyde
"Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:51:47 +0200 bearing the
following fruit:

>Thanks Jan,
>
>Question : why should I prefer common controls 6 on 5?

Of the top of my head, ListSubItems offer you more options
than the old subitems in a listview - that was the main
benefit for me at the time. I really can't remember what the
other changes were.

J

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>Guy
>
>
>"Jan Hyde" <StellaDrin***@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com> wrote in message
>news:prbti1d89mu2p921us0pnfh3ugjhso1as4@4ax.com...
>> "Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
>> released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:16:30 +0200 bearing the
>> following fruit:
>>
>>>H all,
>>>
>>>I wonder what should I do -
>>>
>>>Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>>>
>>>Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for
>>>WINXP
>>>style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar
>>>buttons )
>>>
>>>Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs (listview
>>>etc)....)
>>>
>>>Please advise.
>>>Guy
>>
>> Only you can answer this. If you can manage without the
>> changes that are present in 6, and you feel the XP theme
>> support is sufficiently important then you don't have a lot
>> of choice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Hyde (VB MVP)
>>
>> --
>> Did you hear about the guy who blamed arithmetic for his divorce?
>> His wife put two and two together.
>>
>> (Art. Moger)
>>
>> [Abolish the TV Licence - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]
>>
>


Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Author
19 Sep 2005 2:51 PM
Dave
Hi

It really depends how much work you want to do.
For example look at the ListView, the SP6 version has CheckBoxes,
FullRowSelect and GridLines to mention 3 that SP5 lacks. However all of
these properties (and more) can be done with the SP5 control via the API.
Once you have a library of routines there really is no reason not to use the
SP5 version if you are programming for XP and beyond.
(I've just spent 1/2 a morning working out how to read and set checkmarks on
a SP5 listview - Thanks Randy your site was as ever, very helpfull!)

Best regards
Dave O.

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"Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il> wrote in message
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> Thanks Jan,
>
> Question : why should I prefer common controls 6 on 5?
>
> Guy
>
>
> "Jan Hyde" <StellaDrin***@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com> wrote in message
> news:prbti1d89mu2p921us0pnfh3ugjhso1as4@4ax.com...
>> "Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
>> released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:16:30 +0200 bearing the
>> following fruit:
>>
>>>H all,
>>>
>>>I wonder what should I do -
>>>
>>>Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>>>
>>>Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for
>>>WINXP
>>>style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar
>>>buttons )
>>>
>>>Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs
>>>(listview
>>>etc)....)
>>>
>>>Please advise.
>>>Guy
>>
>> Only you can answer this. If you can manage without the
>> changes that are present in 6, and you feel the XP theme
>> support is sufficiently important then you don't have a lot
>> of choice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Hyde (VB MVP)
>>
>> --
>> Did you hear about the guy who blamed arithmetic for his divorce?
>> His wife put two and two together.
>>
>> (Art. Moger)
>>
>> [Abolish the TV Licence - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]
>>
>
>
Author
19 Sep 2005 3:05 PM
Jan Hyde
"Dave" <Nob***@Nowhere.Com>'s wild thoughts were released on
Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:51:51 +0100 bearing the following fruit:

>Hi
>
>It really depends how much work you want to do.
>For example look at the ListView, the SP6 version has CheckBoxes,
>FullRowSelect and GridLines to mention 3 that SP5 lacks. However all of
>these properties (and more) can be done with the SP5 control via the API.
>Once you have a library of routines there really is no reason not to use the
>SP5 version if you are programming for XP and beyond.
>(I've just spent 1/2 a morning working out how to read and set checkmarks on
>a SP5 listview - Thanks Randy your site was as ever, very helpfull!)

I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
common controls libraries.

You do make a very good point though, much of what is now
available on version 6 of the controls can be achived via
code, of which Randys site has a great many examples

http://vbnet.mvps.org/

J



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>Best regards
>Dave O.
>
>"Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il> wrote in message
>news:ezvoPjRvFHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Jan,
>>
>> Question : why should I prefer common controls 6 on 5?
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>
>> "Jan Hyde" <StellaDrin***@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com> wrote in message
>> news:prbti1d89mu2p921us0pnfh3ugjhso1as4@4ax.com...
>>> "Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il>'s wild thoughts were
>>> released on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:16:30 +0200 bearing the
>>> following fruit:
>>>
>>>>H all,
>>>>
>>>>I wonder what should I do -
>>>>
>>>>Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>>>>
>>>>Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for
>>>>WINXP
>>>>style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar
>>>>buttons )
>>>>
>>>>Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs
>>>>(listview
>>>>etc)....)
>>>>
>>>>Please advise.
>>>>Guy
>>>
>>> Only you can answer this. If you can manage without the
>>> changes that are present in 6, and you feel the XP theme
>>> support is sufficiently important then you don't have a lot
>>> of choice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan Hyde (VB MVP)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Did you hear about the guy who blamed arithmetic for his divorce?
>>> His wife put two and two together.
>>>
>>> (Art. Moger)
>>>
>>> [Abolish the TV Licence - http://www.tvlicensing.biz/]
>>>
>>
>>
>


Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Author
19 Sep 2005 3:56 PM
Dave
> I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
> common controls libraries.
Whatever. You know what I meant.

Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?

Regards
Dave O.
Author
19 Sep 2005 4:10 PM
Someone
> Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?

Nope. They existed before SP5 as far as I can remember.

Please read in MSDN about InitCommonControlsEx. It might refer to the
version number, like what IE version you have installed. I am not sure.



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"Dave" <Nob***@Nowhere.Com> wrote in message
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>> I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
>> common controls libraries.
> Whatever. You know what I meant.
>
> Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?
>
> Regards
> Dave O.
>
Author
19 Sep 2005 4:11 PM
Ken Halter
"Dave" <Nob***@Nowhere.Com> wrote in message
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>> I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
>> common controls libraries.
> Whatever. You know what I meant.
>
> Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?
>
> Regards
> Dave O.

Nope... V5 shipped with VB5 and v6 shipped with VB6. Most likely coincedence
because they're Windows ocx's and not specifically VB ocx's.

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21 Sep 2005 12:30 PM
Dave
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"Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave" <Nob***@Nowhere.Com> wrote in message
> news:OJ%23eqKTvFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
>>> common controls libraries.
>> Whatever. You know what I meant.
>>
>> Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?
>>
>> Regards
>> Dave O.
>
> Nope... V5 shipped with VB5 and v6 shipped with VB6. Most likely
> coincedence because they're Windows ocx's and not specifically VB ocx's.

Oops, obvious when you think about it.

This is weird, the VB6 control contains the ImageCombo which was not in the
VB5 set, the ImageCombo unlike the rest of the VB6 Common Controls does
adopt the XP styling - go figure!

Regards
Dave O.
Author
21 Sep 2005 8:22 AM
Jan Hyde
"Dave" <Nob***@Nowhere.Com>'s wild thoughts were released on
Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:56:14 +0100 bearing the following fruit:

>> I don't think you mean SP6 and SP5, but version 6/5 of the
>> common controls libraries.
>Whatever. You know what I meant.

It was more for the benefit of someone reading your post who
didn't know what you meant.

>Didn't the Version 5 and 6 CC's ship with SP5 & SP6 respectively?

No.

Btw, I'm on SP3


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Author
19 Sep 2005 4:05 PM
Veign
There is a fix for SP6:

FIX: The Windows Common Controls Mscomctl.ocx or
Comctl32.ocx may cause your application or the Visual Basic 6 IDE
to unexpectedly quit, or you may receive a "Divide By Zero" error message
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896559

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"Guy Cohen" <cont***@mediatek.co.il> wrote in message
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> H all,
>
> I wonder what should I do -
>
> Keep using the latest common controls 6.
>
> Or use the older version common controls 5 and have better support for
WINXP
> style (e.g. green progress bar,flat listview, round-edged toolbar
buttons )
>
> Maybe MS should make SP7 (support XP style and fix some SP6 bugs (listview
> etc)....)
>
> Please advise.
> Guy
>
>