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Vista SP2 Being "offered"Has anyone experienced Vista SP2 with VB6?
Are there any more disconnects? Has anyone posted a VB6 vs Vista discontinuities list for either IDE runs or ..exe runs? If not, why not? "Bee" <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Yes.news:5DAC8741-8890-4A3C-9ED6-6B79E056ABF6@microsoft.com... > Has anyone experienced Vista SP2 with VB6? > Are there any more disconnects? Disconnects of what?> Has anyone posted a VB6 vs Vista discontinuities list Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question?> for either IDE runs or .exe runs? If not, why not? Mike Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008
and Windows 7 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/ms788708.aspx Not as helpful as hoped.
Vista does have problems for VB6 compiled and IDE run apps. I have experienced a few. And some I have not figured out how to work around. Some, never discussed in the newsgroup. AVI commands, for one. I do not have a website to provide a listing of problems. I do not know how to do this in a newsgroup either. My experience with this newsgroup is that the threads vanish after a while My Vista Mail app only seems to go back a short ways. My XP Outlook Express only looks back around 300 threads. Since there is no syntax established (e.g. VISTA vs VB Classic) , then searching Google Groups would yield little. I do not know how to make a post float to the top so it can be updated like I have seen on some support forums. What mechanisms are there other than someone providing a service on a website. Does Randy Birch or ? want to do this? Show quoteHide quote "Nobody" wrote: > Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 > and Windows 7 > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/ms788708.aspx > > > > I have experienced a few. And some I have not figured out how to work I usually find what I'm looking for by just doing a search.around. > Some, never discussed in the newsgroup. > > AVI commands, for one. > > I do not have a website to provide a listing of problems. > Often the answer shows up as a newsgroup post hosted by one of the sites that repackage usenet as their own content. But if you have useful info., why not start a website? I pay $20/month for good, dependable hosting. You can get junk hosting -- possibly with ads -- from companies like GoDaddy, Dreamhost, etc. for just a few dollars per month. I don't know of any basic APIs that don't work on Vista/7, but if there are such things it sure would be nice to have a list somewhere. Sorry for the minor rant.
Responding to the OP. Because this subject has been broached before. I wish I knew how to do a website. If I did, I would make part of VB Classic specific. I hope to learn in the near future but right now my time is entirely tied up trying to develope code and avoid Vista gotyas. Yes, some API do not work! Setting transparancy does not work with Vista Aero ON (Aero off it works) I have an app that makes use of click-through that fails on Vista with aero. AVI APIs fail to open AVI files that do open on XP. ditto for one of my apps. probably more I do not know about. Anyway, I do not feel guru enough to really post a credible webpage on the subject. And if and when I start a website, where do I get help? What newsgroup? I do not want to learn HTML and related. A drag and drop creation is what I need. Do you use paypal on yours? Can folks download app from yours? Show quoteHide quote "mayayana" wrote: > > > I have experienced a few. And some I have not figured out how to work > around. > > Some, never discussed in the newsgroup. > > > > AVI commands, for one. > > > > I do not have a website to provide a listing of problems. > > > I usually find what I'm looking for by just doing a search. > Often the answer shows up as a newsgroup post hosted > by one of the sites that repackage usenet as their own > content. > > But if you have useful info., why not start a website? > I pay $20/month for good, dependable hosting. You > can get junk hosting -- possibly with ads -- from companies > like GoDaddy, Dreamhost, etc. for just a few dollars per > month. > > I don't know of any basic APIs that don't work > on Vista/7, but if there are such things it sure would > be nice to have a list somewhere. > > > "Lorin" <Lo***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message You don't need to learn HTML these days, you can use WYSIWYG editors. Some news:3387C2EC-B9D8-435E-B021-B2051135F837@microsoft.com... > I do not want to learn HTML and related. > A drag and drop creation is what I need. are free. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTML_editors#WYSIWYG_editors If you have MS Front Page, then it will do what you want. Search the web for "free web sites templates" if you want to save time. Note that with some editors, such as Front Page; when you press Enter, it goes down 2 lines, this is because it assumes that you were writing a paragraph. To go to the next line, you have to press Shift+Enter. For web hosting, here is a free one(Unix based): http://free.prohosting.com/probuilder.htm For Windows based, check out this one($10+/Month) http://www.webecs.com/hostplans.aspx > I'm not sure about that. HTML is fairly easy, but you> And if and when I start a website, where do I get help? > What newsgroup? > > I do not want to learn HTML and related. > A drag and drop creation is what I need. can also get "what you see is what you get" (WYSIWYG) editors. They work OK if you keep it very simple. And most coders don't care very much. Some of the most advanced programmers make the worst websites, with plain black text on a white background. You can always start by just sandwiching your text inside basic HTML tags: <HTML><HEAD> <TITLE>VB code</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> </BODY></HTML> That's all that you have to have. Put all your text inside the BODY tag. Use <BR> to create returns. Webpages can be improved gradually. If you have a graphical bent them CSS is worth learning. (XML and XHTML, on the other hand, are overused, overhyped and unnecessary in general. Script, ASP and PHP are not needed unless you want interactive pages. So HTML is the only real requirement.) The trickier thing, which is harder to find out about, is basic things like how to upload your pages, how to buy a domain, etc. But if you find a host they usually help with that. > I use ShareIt, one of several shareware resellers.> Do you use paypal on yours? > Can folks download app from yours? > I don't like the idea of PayPal. They require that you open a bank account that they control and can put a hold on. That's crazy. But ShareIt does accept PayPal, so if anyone wants to use that they can. And I don't have to deal with them directly. Legally, ShareIt buys your software and resells it. They take a cut, but then you don't have to handle charge cards, collect European VAT tax, etc. People can download my software and they can buy it. I don't sell as much as I used to. These days I'm lucky to pay for the website. Shareware is not what it once was. These days most people can get the software they need for free. And fewer people are exploring what can be done with a PC. (It's the age of consumer-tech. All of the latest talked-about things -- cloud apps, FaceBook, Twitter, blogs, Picasa -- are little more than techno-diddling for lazy people; cases where people are trading private control and creativity for corporate-mediated online consumerism.) But I enjoy coding. I enjoy web design. I enjoy being helpful. I like to keep improving the software for myself and the people who have bought it. I started out originally with the idea that the website would be my offering to the Internet, in exchange for the benefit I was getting. I still haven't given up on the idea of the Internet as a communication medium where all can take part. (As opposed to a consumer medium where all can wiseacre about politicians and movie stars while nobody listens. :) Maya,
I already have a vb6andvista.org website that I kinda gave up on for lack of interest. Send me over what you have and I'll post it, and give you full credit. Eventually I can give you your own login to do it yourself. What do you think? - Kev -- Show quoteHide quote2025 If you do not believe in time travel, your beliefs are about to be tempered. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43606237254 "mayayana" <mayaXXy***@rcXXn.com> wrote in message news:%23LeOX595JHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | | > | > And if and when I start a website, where do I get help? | > What newsgroup? | > | | > I do not want to learn HTML and related. | > A drag and drop creation is what I need. | | I'm not sure about that. HTML is fairly easy, but you | can also get "what you see is what you get" (WYSIWYG) | editors. They work OK if you keep it very simple. And most | coders don't care very much. Some of the most advanced | programmers make the worst websites, with plain black | text on a white background. | You can always start by just sandwiching your text inside | basic HTML tags: | | <HTML><HEAD> | <TITLE>VB code</TITLE> | </HEAD> | <BODY> | | </BODY></HTML> | | That's all that you have to have. Put all your text inside the | BODY tag. Use <BR> to create returns. Webpages can be | improved gradually. If you have a graphical bent them CSS | is worth learning. (XML and XHTML, on the other hand, are | overused, overhyped and unnecessary in general. Script, | ASP and PHP are not needed unless you want interactive | pages. So HTML is the only real requirement.) | | The trickier thing, which is harder to find out about, | is basic things like how to upload your pages, how to buy a | domain, etc. But if you find a host they usually help with that. | | > | > Do you use paypal on yours? | > Can folks download app from yours? | > | I use ShareIt, one of several shareware resellers. | I don't like the idea of PayPal. They require that you | open a bank account that they control and can put a | hold on. That's crazy. But ShareIt does accept PayPal, | so if anyone wants to use that they can. And I don't | have to deal with them directly. Legally, ShareIt | buys your software and resells it. They take a cut, but | then you don't have to handle charge cards, collect | European VAT tax, etc. | | People can download my software and they can buy | it. I don't sell as much as I used to. These days I'm lucky | to pay for the website. | Shareware is not what it once was. | These days most people can get the software they need for | free. And fewer people are exploring what can be done | with a PC. (It's the age of consumer-tech. All of the latest | talked-about things -- cloud apps, FaceBook, Twitter, | blogs, Picasa -- are little more than techno-diddling for lazy | people; cases where people are trading private control and | creativity for corporate-mediated online consumerism.) | | But I enjoy coding. I enjoy web design. I enjoy being helpful. | I like to keep improving the software for myself and the people | who have bought it. I started out originally with the idea that | the website would be my offering to the Internet, in exchange | for the benefit I was getting. I still haven't given up on the idea | of the Internet as a communication medium where all can take | part. (As opposed to a consumer medium where all can | wiseacre about politicians and movie stars while nobody | listens. :) | | | > I already have a vb6andvista.org website that I kinda gave up on for lack First I'd say that I think Vista and Win7 shouldof > interest. Send me over what you have and I'll post it, and give you full > credit. Eventually I can give you your own login to do it yourself. > > What do you think? > be treated as one. I haven't seen any definitive listing of differences, but from what I've read they seem to be basically the same thing. And since the biggest problem with these systems is changes in how permissions work, a fix for one should generally be a fix for the other. Also, Win7 is just around the corner while Vista never entirely arrived. Your invitation/proposal sounds good. At this point I don't have anything on Vista from my own experience. That's why I was asking about it. I haven't really been dealing with Vista. I get few Vista users at my own website, and all of my free software/components are specifically designed *not* to run on Vista at all. Problem solved. :) But now with Win7 on the horizon, I figure that there will be lots of people who don't want to leave Windows but who have to give up XP, simply because XP has been off the mainstream market for so many years. (Unless Mr. Putin changes that for us. :) With that in mind I downloaded the Win7 RC and have been testing my for-sale software, which I've re-written where necessary to accomodate DEP changes (that started with XP SP3) and to accomodate permission problems. I'm making two major changes: 1) Changing my subclassing that was setting off DEP. 2) Changing my installer to grant full permission for all users to subfolders I create within the program folder for storing settings and writing temp files. That change involves moving settings out of the Registry and standardizing the software behavior, so that nearly everything the software is doing happens in the program folder, and the settings are consistently all-user. That way the only problems people have should be their own permission issues with whatever speciofic files they want to work with. I probably have it easier than most, as I don't need to care much about satisfying the needs of system admins. (So separate settings for multiple users are irrelevant.) I don't ship ActiveX controls that need to be registered. And I avoid anything that I can't make work using Win32 APIs supported at least back to Win98. For someone doing, say, a skinned music player with a playlist database -- or some kind of multi-user software aimed at a restricted intranet environment -- I expect there might be lots of other possible issues. So... to make a long story tolerable... I'm interested in your site but I'm not sure that I'll have much to contribute. On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:08:27 -0400, "mayayana" <mayaXXy***@rcXXn.com> That's what keeps me at the computer now, despite the fact that Iwrote: > But I enjoy coding. retired several years ago. And if I can produce something that others may find useful, well, that's an added benefit as far as I'm concerned. My problem is that there is never enough time to try out the fabulous stuff on my bookshelf and software drawer. I still have the Mix C compiler that I never really looked at properly, including a whole package on B-Trees. QuickC for Windows, Turbo Pascal, even MASM which I dabbled with several years ago when Crescent Software was still selling the assember source code to all its routines, all are interesting. I would need another lifetime to cover all this 'stuff', but at 63 I may only, hopefully, have a few years left (well, I *hope* for lots more, but time's a-pressin'!). MM In article <#LeOX595JHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, mayaXXy***@rcXXn.com
says... Show quoteHide quote > Plain text is often the best kind of web site, because it's fast to > > > > And if and when I start a website, where do I get help? > > What newsgroup? > > > > > I do not want to learn HTML and related. > > A drag and drop creation is what I need. > > I'm not sure about that. HTML is fairly easy, but you > can also get "what you see is what you get" (WYSIWYG) > editors. They work OK if you keep it very simple. And most > coders don't care very much. Some of the most advanced > programmers make the worst websites, with plain black > text on a white background. load, and allows the reader to pick the color scheme. That's the way HTTP was originally intended to work. ..... -- /~\ The ASCII \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML / \ Email! Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the newsgroups if possible). On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:57:14 -0700, Lorin
<Lo***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I do not want to learn HTML and related. The easiest, most VB-like webpage generating tool has to be, by miles,>A drag and drop creation is what I need. Netobjects Fusion. I bought the MX version several years ago, but acquired later versions for free from magazine cover-mount DVDs. Currently the version I use is version 7. It is a fantastic product. I once tried (and purchased) Front Page 2000 and it was a PITA to use, a veritable life sentence. Over the past 10 or so years I have tried other packages, HotMetal Pro being one that comes to mind. But all, especially FP, pale into insignificance once you start using Netobjects Fusion. With NOF you can produce a basic website in a matter of minutes. Some critics say it is bloated in that it includes lots of tiny files to provide the fancy layout, but with today's vast hard disks my response is, who cares? (Which was also my response when I was denigrating the concept of shared DLLs and DLL Hell whereas now we have registration-free COM.) NOF Version 8 was free on the August 2006 DVD edition of Personal Computer World, so if you can find someone with that, give it a try! MM "Lorin" <Lo***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Outlook Express by default only downloads 300 headers. To download another news:4471DAAB-52FE-4693-BDB1-4AE6A1D46C84@microsoft.com... > My Vista Mail app only seems to go back a short ways. > My XP Outlook Express only looks back around 300 threads. 300, click on Tools-->Get Next XXX Headers. To make it download all headers, go to Tools-->Options-->Read tab, and at "News" section, disable "Get XXX Headers at a time", then click OK. The download begins when you revisit the group again. The total number of messages depends on the news server that you connect to. MS News server limits it to 3 months, ISP news servers may handle more, but usually no more than few years. Usually they limit it by time and disk space. Beyond that you have to use something like Google. "Lorin" <Lo***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Micro$oft servers remove posts older than three months so you should news:4471DAAB-52FE-4693-BDB1-4AE6A1D46C84@microsoft.com... > My experience with this newsgroup is that the threads > vanish after a while. My Vista Mail app only seems to > go back a short ways. My XP Outlook Express only > looks back around 300 threads. currently be able to see all posts later than about 8th March. If you cannot see those posts then have a look at your Mail settings to make sure that your mail program is not deleting any messages. In Vista Mail use the Tools / Options menu and click the Advanced tab and then click the Maintenance button. If there is a tick against 'Purge Newsgroup Message in the Background' and against 'Delete News Messages nnn Days After Being Downloaded' then remove those ticks. You will find that Outlook Express in XP has similar maintenance settings, although not in exactly the same place. If you want to access messages older than that then check the Google Groups archive. Mike 
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