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Beep AgainDoes anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that might
trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of course!). The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times over the past two days to post a response to the group containing some example code I have written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a post by Abhishek. However, none of those posts seem to have got through to the group whereas other separate test posts seem to get through okay. I'm wondering if there is perhaps a group of words in those posts which just happen to trigger some kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? Otherwise, does anybody know of an explanation why ALL such posts (five of them) should not get through? Mike
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"Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message Start a new project, add 2 TextBoxes and set both MultiLine property to news:ufl$R9KrJHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that > might trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of > course!). The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times over > the past two days to post a response to the group containing some example > code I have written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a post by > Abhishek. However, none of those posts seem to have got through to the > group whereas other separate test posts seem to get through okay. I'm > wondering if there is perhaps a group of words in those posts which just > happen to trigger some kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? > Otherwise, does anybody know of an explanation why ALL such posts (five of > them) should not get through? > > Mike True. Add a CommandButton and paste the following code. Run the project, then write what you want in the first text box. It will be converted to VB code in the second text box using multiple Chr() functions. Option Explicit Private Sub Command1_Click() Dim i As Long Text2.Text = "Option Explicit" & vbCrLf & vbCrLf Text2.Text = Text2.Text & "Private Sub Form_Load()" & vbCrLf Text2.Text = Text2.Text & "Dim s As String" & vbCrLf Text2.Text = Text2.Text & vbCrLf & "s = s" For i = 1 To Len(Text1.Text) If i Mod 7 = 0 Then ' New line Text2.Text = Text2.Text & vbCrLf & "s = s" Else Text2.Text = Text2.Text & " & Chr(" & Trim(Str(Asc(Mid( _ Text1.Text, i, 1)))) & ")" End If Next Text2.Text = Text2.Text & vbCrLf & "Debug.Print s" & vbCrLf Text2.Text = Text2.Text & "End Sub" & vbCrLf End Sub You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject
Chris Michael Williams wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that > might trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of > course!). The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times > over the past two days to post a response to the group containing some > example code I have written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a > post by Abhishek. However, none of those posts seem to have got through > to the group whereas other separate test posts seem to get through okay. > I'm wondering if there is perhaps a group of words in those posts which > just happen to trigger some kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? > Otherwise, does anybody know of an explanation why ALL such posts (five > of them) should not get through? > > Mike > > Chris D wrote:
> You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject is that what you would expect, Mike?.... ditto here... -- "dpb" <n***@non.net> wrote in message news:gqbeum$oad$1@aioe.org... I don't really know. I see none of my posts in that specific thread at this > Chris D wrote: >> You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject > ... > ditto here... > is that what you would expect, Mike? end (none of the five posts in which I included example code). Apparently some people see all five of them, some see just two, some see three and at least one (myself) sees none at all. Curiouser and curiouser :-) Mike On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:24:19 +0000, Michael Williams sez:
> Apparently Pan on my Linux box (which builds distributable binaries WITHOUT the need > some people see all five of them, some see just two, some > see three and at least one (myself) sees none at all. Curiouser > and curiouser for that .net framework, thankyouverymuch) shows one response of yours from Saturday ("out of curiosity I've just created a 16 bit..."), one from Sunday ("most typical speakers as well"), and one from Monday ("Beep is a nuisance") all with message-IDs ending in .phx.gbl. My news server is news.bresnan.net, for whatever that's worth. If I spend the rest of the day with that song stuck in my head, I'm going to hurt somebody. Those of you too young to know what I'm talking about, just turn up your iWhatever and ignore me. And get off my lawn, you hooligans. -- Peter B. Steiger In My Little Nash Rambler Cheyenne, WY If you must reply by email, you can reach me by placing zeroes where you see stars: wypbs.**1 at gmail.com. Mike, I got your email last night, and posted the full text of it, along
with an explanation (and a change in Subject to Re: Beep Beep from Mike Williams), and guess what? It isn't visible here today (I didn't check it last night after sending). Now, that is really weird, and almost points to something in the body text causing it to not appear. You're not using those naughty VB commands again, are you? ;-) -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Rick Raisley heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message news:ec6otbMrJHA.6020@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "dpb" <n***@non.net> wrote in message news:gqbeum$oad$1@aioe.org... >> Chris D wrote: >>> You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject >> ... >> ditto here... >> is that what you would expect, Mike? > > I don't really know. I see none of my posts in that specific thread at > this end (none of the five posts in which I included example code). > Apparently some people see all five of them, some see just two, some see > three and at least one (myself) sees none at all. Curiouser and curiouser > :-) > > Mike > > "Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-Tnet> wrote in message Thanks Rick. That clinches it. Have a look at some of the most recent news:eVzCvpVrJHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Mike, I got your email last night, and posted the full text > of it, along with an explanation (and a change in Subject > to Re: Beep Beep from Mike Williams), and guess what? > It isn't visible here today (I didn't check it last night after > sending). Now, that is really weird, and almost points to something in the > body text causing it to not appear. You're > not using those naughty VB commands again, are you? ;-) messages in this thread and you'll see it has been pinned down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c (without the underscores of course, which I've inserted just to make sure this post gets through). Don't ask me what the Micro$oft news servers didn't like about that word though. I certainly can't figure it out, looks perfectly innocent to me, but it was enough to have their rejection filters kick in! Curioser and Curiouser :-) It was Bob O' Bob who pinned it down, without apparently performing the equivalent of a binary search by posting suitable tests to the group, so I can only assume that he knows the person at Micro$oft who is responsible for filtering messages and that he was able to run the message through their filter and check the log it produced. Mike Michael Williams wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-Tnet> wrote in message Nope, did the whole BS thing in microsoft.public.nntp.test> news:eVzCvpVrJHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Mike, I got your email last night, and posted the full text >> of it, along with an explanation (and a change in Subject >> to Re: Beep Beep from Mike Williams), and guess what? >> It isn't visible here today (I didn't check it last night after >> sending). Now, that is really weird, and almost points to something in >> the body text causing it to not appear. You're >> not using those naughty VB commands again, are you? ;-) > > Thanks Rick. That clinches it. Have a look at some of the most recent > messages in this thread and you'll see it has been pinned down to the > word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c (without the underscores of course, which > I've inserted just to make sure this post gets through). Don't ask me > what the Micro$oft news servers didn't like about that word though. I > certainly can't figure it out, looks perfectly innocent to me, but it > was enough to have their rejection filters kick in! Curioser and > Curiouser :-) It was Bob O' Bob who pinned it down, without apparently > performing the equivalent of a binary search by posting suitable tests > to the group, so I can only assume that he knows the person at Micro$oft > who is responsible for filtering messages and that he was able to run > the message through their filter and check the log it produced. > > Mike > > "Bob O`Bob" <filter***@yahoogroups.com> wrote in message Right. I always forget that there is a test group for doing such things. news:uEr9LrXrJHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Nope, did the whole BS thing in microsoft.public.nntp.test Would have done so myself if I had remembered. Not half as much fun as cluttering up the VB group though ;-) Still puzzles me what the filters didn't like about that word? Mike Michael Williams wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Bob O`Bob" <filter***@yahoogroups.com> wrote in message Dunno. I can justify a little bit of investigation into it,> news:uEr9LrXrJHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Nope, did the whole BS thing in microsoft.public.nntp.test > > Right. I always forget that there is a test group for doing such things. > Would have done so myself if I had remembered. Not half as much fun as > cluttering up the VB group though ;-) > > Still puzzles me what the filters didn't like about that word? > > Mike > > since filtering messages is now what I do for a living. I think it most likely has to do with the sequence s p e r and what may or may not accompany it. But it would be pretty stupid for them to have implemented something easy to discover "this works" "this doesn't" by a simplistic character match. Or maybe they did, and maybe I'm actually over-thinking the problem. And I may be about at my limit for time to bother anyway. Some days, ya gotta just mangle the ""offending"" word and move on. Bob -- Bob O`Bob wrote:
> Ack. Shades of the days when you couldn't mention "chardonnay" or> I think it most likely has to do with the sequence s p e r > and what may or may not accompany it. "saltwater". -- Jim Jim Mack wrote:
> Bob O`Bob wrote: Sadly, those days never actually left us.>> I think it most likely has to do with the sequence s p e r >> and what may or may not accompany it. > > Ack. Shades of the days when you couldn't mention "chardonnay" or > "saltwater". > Even today, "specialist" runs into dumb filters all the time. I've also seen some pretty complex attempts to catch sound-alike type stuff - all the way up to one which threw a false positive on my own amateur radio callsign, WA6RGA ... Bob -- <monty python>
<knight> How can we not say IT if we do not know what IT is! </knight> <knights who say ni> AGH stop saying the word!!! </knights who say ni> </monty python> -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Rick Raisley heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net "Bob O`Bob" <filter***@yahoogroups.com> wrote in message news:uk%23albYrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Michael Williams wrote: >> "Bob O`Bob" <filter***@yahoogroups.com> wrote in message >> news:uEr9LrXrJHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>> Nope, did the whole BS thing in microsoft.public.nntp.test >> >> Right. I always forget that there is a test group for doing such things. >> Would have done so myself if I had remembered. Not half as much fun as >> cluttering up the VB group though ;-) >> >> Still puzzles me what the filters didn't like about that word? >> >> Mike >> >> > > > Dunno. I can justify a little bit of investigation into it, > since filtering messages is now what I do for a living. > > I think it most likely has to do with the sequence s p e r > and what may or may not accompany it. > > But it would be pretty stupid for them to have implemented > something easy to discover "this works" "this doesn't" > by a simplistic character match. Or maybe they did, and > maybe I'm actually over-thinking the problem. > > > And I may be about at my limit for time to bother anyway. > > Some days, ya gotta just mangle the ""offending"" word > and move on. > > > > Bob > -- On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:10:26 -0400, "Rick Raisley"
<heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-Tnet> wrote: ><monty python> Now if we can only get a shrubbery, this thread would be officially> <knight> > How can we not say IT if we do not know what IT is! > </knight> > <knights who say ni> > AGH stop saying the word!!! > </knights who say ni> ></monty python> over. :) J.Jeremiah D. Seitz Omega Techware http://www.omegatechware.net
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"Jeremiah D. Seitz" <jse***@omegatechware.net> wrote in message Only slightly higher so we get a sort of two-level effect with a path...news:8m4ns45iepfcri3ck8nprioc6rmv9040c3@4ax.com... > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:10:26 -0400, "Rick Raisley" > <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-Tnet> wrote: > >><monty python> >> <knight> >> How can we not say IT if we do not know what IT is! >> </knight> >> <knights who say ni> >> AGH stop saying the word!!! >> </knights who say ni> >></monty python> > > Now if we can only get a shrubbery, this thread would be officially > over. > > You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject That's odd. I only see him having two posts in the> ... > ditto here... > > is that what you would expect, Mike? > beep thread. And I'm connecting to the MS servers. I also saw almost no posts at all yesterday, as though it were Sunday. That kind of thing seems to happen periodically, but I've never figured out why. It's even more odd when I find that a post won't seem to go through but I can find it on Google!
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"mayayana" <mayayaX***@rcXXn.com> wrote in message And I see three posts by Mike.news:%23MQ9d8LrJHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > You are 5 times in my news reader for the 'beep beep' subject >> ... >> ditto here... >> >> is that what you would expect, Mike? >> > > That's odd. I only see him having two posts in the > beep thread. And I'm connecting to the MS servers. I > also saw almost no posts at all yesterday, as though > it were Sunday. > > That kind of thing seems to happen periodically, but > I've never figured out why. It's even more odd when > I find that a post won't seem to go through but I can > find it on Google! > "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message In my OE I only see three of your posts in the original thread, none with > I have tried five or more times over the past two days to post a response > to the group containing some example code I have written to generate sine > wave beeps in response to a post by Abhishek. However, none of those posts > seem to have got through to the group any code. When I clicked your post of 23-03-2009 19:53 (UK time) all the headers suddenly changed to strike-through with a little red-x and "Message is no longer available on the server". In Google groups I see total of 5/24 messages from you, 3 with long code. Regards, Peter T PS I just refreshed OE with F5, that strike-through message has now disappeared completely. Now you appear in it twice. "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions> wrote in message Thanks for the info, Peter. And thanks to everyone else who responded. news:OtOjPZMrJHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > In my OE I only see three of your posts in the original thread, > none with any code. When I clicked your post of 23-03-2009 > 19:53 (UK time) all the headers suddenly changed to > strike-through with a little red-x and "Message is no longer available on > the server". Frankly I do not at all understand what is going on there :-( Mike Add me to the "I see 2" group <g>, Saga
Show quoteHide quote "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message news:u%23wzCeMrJHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions> wrote in message > news:OtOjPZMrJHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> In my OE I only see three of your posts in the original thread, >> none with any code. When I clicked your post of 23-03-2009 >> 19:53 (UK time) all the headers suddenly changed to >> strike-through with a little red-x and "Message is no longer available on >> the server". > > Thanks for the info, Peter. And thanks to everyone else who responded. > Frankly I do not at all understand what is going on there :-( > > Mike > > "Peter T" <peter_t@discussions> wrote in message Same with me, I only see two replies from Mike in that thread from OE.news:OtOjPZMrJHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > PS I just refreshed OE with F5, that strike-through message has now > disappeared completely. Now you appear in it twice. Mike, have you tried resetting the newsgroup? "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message Not sure what you mean. Do you mean unsubscribe and then subscribe again? Or news:u5N4%23eMrJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Mike, have you tried resetting the newsgroup? do you mean that I should ditch the Microsoft News folder in AppData / Local / Microsoft / Windows Mail and start again? Mike "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message From what Peter T says, it seems your posts have been removed. From the one news:ec71yyMrJHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message > news:u5N4%23eMrJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> Mike, have you tried resetting the newsgroup? > > Not sure what you mean. Do you mean unsubscribe and then subscribe again? > Or do you mean that I should ditch the Microsoft News folder in AppData / > Local / Microsoft / Windows Mail and start again? > > Mike > message of yours I see with code I'm guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back if I learn anything. In the meantime, the code is interesting and I will keep the copy I see for future reference. "Richard Mueller [MVP]" <rlmueller-nospam@ameritech.nospam.net> wrote in Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has since message news:uRXgL6MrJHA.3864@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > From the one message of yours I see with code I'm > guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API > alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back if > I learn anything. pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > In the meantime, the code is interesting and Okay. Don't forget that it is just "code in work" at the moment and there > I will keep the copy I see for future reference. may be some issues with it (the possibility of it crashing if you attempt to execute lots of WavPlay statements in a closed loop if you are not using Wait is one of them, although I think a short Sleep in the loop might fix that). Also, as it stands, the code generates a waveform lasting the entire length of the desired "duration", whereas it would be more efficient, especially for long durations, to create a fairly short waveform and to play it repeatedly using SND_LOOP until the desired duration has elapsed. I haven't yet included any code to do that because I don't really have time at the moment and I know that in addition to the "wait for desired duration" logic it will be necessary to properly detect a suitable zero crossing point, making sure that you choose a final sample the voltage value of which is a negative value approaching zero and about the correct distance away from zero so that it joins up neatly with the first (zero volts) sample, otherwise you might hear little "clicks" at the loop frequency. Mike "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message ??? Any idea WHY?news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> From the one message of yours I see with code I'm >> guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API >> alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back >> if I learn anything. > > Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has > since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message No. I'm just picking up on something Bob mentioned when he said he thought news:eKpgoxUrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message >> news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has >> since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > > ??? Any idea WHY? he had it pinned down to that word. I've been looking at it for ages though and I really can't see why it or any part of it would be logged as "dodgy". As a test, I've inserted the phrase Dim S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c as Double into this response to see if it gets through okay. (The above is an exact copy of a response I've just posted with the exception that it did not have the underscore characters between the characters in question. Let's see if either of them get blocked?) Mike "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message Well that seems to have pinned it down okay. I've just downloaded the latest news:urw4zRVrJHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message ??? Any idea WHY? > > No. I'm just picking up on something Bob mentioned when he said > he thought he had it pinned down to that word. I've been looking at > it for ages though and I really can't see why it or any part of it would > be logged as "dodgy". As a test, I've inserted the phrase > Dim S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c as Double into this response > to see if it gets through okay. posts to the group and I can see my post which had the underscores between the characters (as above) but I cannot see the post that did not, even though that was the first one to be posted. So it definitely looks as though the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c (or the phrase Dim S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c as Double), without the underscores of course, is trigerring some kind of automated rejection mechanism, although for the life of me I cannot see what it objects to. Curiouser and curiouser! Mike Try asking in one of these groups:
microsoft.public.msnewservers microsoft.public.news.server
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"Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message Probably objection to posting benchmarks, such as for dotnet. See this post:news:eKpgoxUrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message > news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> From the one message of yours I see with code I'm >>> guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API >>> alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back >>> if I learn anything. >> >> Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has >> since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > > ??? Any idea WHY? http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.performance/msg/1405fe983d70f74f
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"Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message I can see my reply below using msnews server, but it's like nobody else is news:eKpgoxUrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message > news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> From the one message of yours I see with code I'm >>> guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API >>> alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back >>> if I learn anything. >> >> Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has >> since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > > ??? Any idea WHY? seeing it. I included it below with one word that is underscored. Older reply: Probably objection to posting b_e_n_c_h_m_a_r_k_s, such as for dotnet. See this post: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.performance/msg/1405fe983d70f74f
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"Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message I can see my reply below using msnews server, but it's like nobody else isnews:eKpgoxUrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message > news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> From the one message of yours I see with code I'm >>> guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API >>> alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back >>> if I learn anything. >> >> Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has >> since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > > ??? Any idea WHY? seeing it. I included it below with one word that is underscored and two space characters in the link. Older reply: Probably objection to posting b_e__n_c_h__m__a_r_k_s, such as for dotnet. See this post: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.per form ance/msg/1405fe983d70f74f
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"Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message Debug.Print Chr(68) & Chr(111) & Chr(116) & Chr(110) & Chr(101) & _news:eKpgoxUrJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message > news:O%23%23zRiTrJHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> From the one message of yours I see with code I'm >>> guessing that one of the constants or perhaps the API >>> alias triggered a spam filter. I've made inquiries and will report back >>> if I learn anything. >> >> Thanks. That's what I was thinking myself too. In fact I think Bob has >> since pinned it down to the word S_a_m_p_l_e_s_P_e_r_S_e_c. > > ??? Any idea WHY? Chr(116) & Chr(32) & Chr(98) & Chr(101) & Chr(110) & Chr(99) & _ Chr(104) & Chr(109) & Chr(97) & Chr(114) & Chr(107) & Chr(115) Nobody wrote:
>> ??? Any idea WHY? 010011000100111101001100!> > Debug.Print Chr(68) & Chr(111) & Chr(116) & Chr(110) & Chr(101) & _ > Chr(116) & Chr(32) & Chr(98) & Chr(101) & Chr(110) & Chr(99) & _ > Chr(104) & Chr(109) & Chr(97) & Chr(114) & Chr(107) & Chr(115) "Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in message For future reference, I meant right-click the group in the tree, go to news:ec71yyMrJHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Mike, have you tried resetting the newsgroup? > > Not sure what you mean. Do you mean unsubscribe and then subscribe again? > Or do you mean that I should ditch the Microsoft News folder in AppData / > Local / Microsoft / Windows Mail and start again? Properties, and then on the Local File tab, hit the Reset button. It causes a complete re-download of headers. "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> wrote in message Okay. Thanks. In the meantime I've just posted two responses with the news:uC2ARyUrJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > For future reference, I meant right-click the group in the > tree, go to Properties, and then on the Local File tab, hit > the Reset button. It causes a complete re-download of > headers. "suspect" word including underscores between the characters in one reponse and not in the other, to test if either of them get blocked. Mike Bleeping Beeps
From my vantage point the newsgroup has been inaccessible for a day. And ... what I see at the microsoft.com/communities has more posts than through my Vista PC Mail newsreader. And I thought it was just me. M$ is messing around. Must be something I said in one of my posts. Coming to you through the microsoft.com/communities right now Show quoteHide quote "Michael Williams" wrote: > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that might > trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of course!). > The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times over the past > two days to post a response to the group containing some example code I have > written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a post by Abhishek. > However, none of those posts seem to have got through to the group whereas > other separate test posts seem to get through okay. I'm wondering if there > is perhaps a group of words in those posts which just happen to trigger some > kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? Otherwise, does anybody know of > an explanation why ALL such posts (five of them) should not get through? > > Mike > > > Don't need preaching to.
My apps are <\BOLD>process control<\UnBold> apps and the user is <\Underline>NOT<\UnUnderline> sitting at the PC. I need to make a noise to get his or her(the cuter one) attention. I do always include a button to enable/disable sounds. So there ... Show quoteHide quote "Michael Williams" wrote: > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that might > trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of course!). > The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times over the past > two days to post a response to the group containing some example code I have > written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a post by Abhishek. > However, none of those posts seem to have got through to the group whereas > other separate test posts seem to get through okay. I'm wondering if there > is perhaps a group of words in those posts which just happen to trigger some > kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? Otherwise, does anybody know of > an explanation why ALL such posts (five of them) should not get through? > > Mike > > > P.S. Thanks for the code to try. Found It on google.
Show quoteHide quote "Michael Williams" wrote: > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that might > trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of course!). > The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times over the past > two days to post a response to the group containing some example code I have > written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a post by Abhishek. > However, none of those posts seem to have got through to the group whereas > other separate test posts seem to get through okay. I'm wondering if there > is perhaps a group of words in those posts which just happen to trigger some > kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? Otherwise, does anybody know of > an explanation why ALL such posts (five of them) should not get through? > > Mike > > >
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"Michael Williams" <M***@WhiskeyAndCoke.com> wrote in I see three of your posts in the original thread Mike, wth code.news:ufl$R9KrJHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that > might trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of > course!). The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times > over the past two days to post a response to the group containing some > example code I have written to generate sine wave beeps in response to > a post by Abhishek. However, none of those posts seem to have got > through to the group whereas other separate test posts seem to get > through okay. I'm wondering if there is perhaps a group of words in > those posts which just happen to trigger some kind of automatic > rejection? Is that likely? Otherwise, does anybody know of an > explanation why ALL such posts (five of them) should not get through? The server I use is motzarella. Michael Williams wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Does anybody know if there is anything in the contents of a post that just a guess here, but> might trigger some sort of automatic rejection (other than my name of > course!). The reason I ask is because I have tried five or more times > over the past two days to post a response to the group containing some > example code I have written to generate sine wave beeps in response to a > post by Abhishek. However, none of those posts seem to have got through > to the group whereas other separate test posts seem to get through okay. > I'm wondering if there is perhaps a group of words in those posts which > just happen to trigger some kind of automatic rejection? Is that likely? > Otherwise, does anybody know of an explanation why ALL such posts (five > of them) should not get through? > > Mike > > 1) there are a few article numbers missing from the msnews server in this group today. 2) of the five article number gaps which appear since the start of the "Beep Beep" thread, two gaps immediately precede articles of yours. 3) it is known that there are "bad words" filters, principally for profanity 4) some news clients will make an encoding decision, per posting, whether to format a (large?) article in a psuedo-binary form such as "base64" 5) encoded postings occasionally, just by chance, include "bad" words. 6) it is known that the "bad words" filters are not smart enough to tell. Bob MS-MVP (until the end of this month) -- > 5) encoded postings occasionally, just by chance, include "bad" words. I've often thought of trying to document that, but it> > 6) it is known that the "bad words" filters are not smart enough to tell. > doesn't happen with enough regularity. I remember awhile back someone tried to post a message that was blocked over and over. He then posted it entirely in something like &#nnn; format and it got through. I decoded the message and found nothing that seemed potentially problematic. mayayana wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >> 5) encoded postings occasionally, just by chance, include "bad" words. The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid.>> >> 6) it is known that the "bad words" filters are not smart enough to tell. >> > > I've often thought of trying to document that, but it > doesn't happen with enough regularity. I remember > awhile back someone tried to post a message that was > blocked over and over. He then posted it entirely in > something like &#nnn; format and it got through. I > decoded the message and found nothing that seemed > potentially problematic. > > The problem in this case appears to be the variable name S a m p l e s P e r S e c I've reported this to someone who should be able to push through the appropriate investigation. It's not like that one's not going to come up again. Once again disappointed by the quality of support NNTP gets around here, Bob -- Bob O`Bob wrote:
> The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid. Wow. Stupid? Very kind...> > The problem in this case appears to be the variable name > > S a m p l e s P e r S e c Karl E. Peterson wrote:
> Bob O`Bob wrote: Yeah. I've been trying to reply to this post with other examples, too.>> The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid. >> >> The problem in this case appears to be the variable name >> >> S a m p l e s P e r S e c > > Wow. Stupid? Very kind... So far 6 failures and no successes at all. Bob O`Bob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Karl E. Peterson wrote: n e e d l e s s p e r s e c u t i o n>> Bob O`Bob wrote: >>> The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid. >>> >>> The problem in this case appears to be the variable name >>> >>> S a m p l e s P e r S e c >> >> Wow. Stupid? Very kind... > > > Yeah. I've been trying to reply to this post with other examples, too. > So far 6 failures and no successes at all. That apparently fails as well, even WITH a space between the words. You're right - my characterization of this situation as "stupid" was entirely unwarranted in its generosity. -- Bob O`Bob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Bob O`Bob wrote: I am hopeful that maybe some process somewhere has recognized something>> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>> Bob O`Bob wrote: >>>> The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid. >>>> >>>> The problem in this case appears to be the variable name >>>> >>>> S a m p l e s P e r S e c >>> >>> Wow. Stupid? Very kind... >> >> >> Yeah. I've been trying to reply to this post with other examples, too. >> So far 6 failures and no successes at all. > > > n e e d l e s s p e r s e c u t i o n > > > That apparently fails as well, even WITH a space between the words. > > You're right - my characterization of this situation as "stupid" > was entirely unwarranted in its generosity. > about the test posts *I* have been attempting, and has sort of "tightened" the rules for my posts, specifically. I doubt it very much, but it would actually be a more reasonable explanation than any other I can come up with. So ... if anyone else is interested to submit some test postings, let's NOT clutter up this newsgroup, but instead go to microsoft.public.nntp.test (followups set on this post) Bob -- Bob O`Bob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Bob O`Bob wrote: LOL!>> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>> Bob O`Bob wrote: >>>> The bad words filters are ... well, they're downright stupid. >>>> >>>> The problem in this case appears to be the variable name >>>> >>>> S a m p l e s P e r S e c >>> >>> Wow. Stupid? Very kind... >> >> >> Yeah. I've been trying to reply to this post with other examples, too. >> So far 6 failures and no successes at all. > > > n e e d l e s s p e r s e c u t i o n > > > That apparently fails as well, even WITH a space between the words. How long before g r a t u i t o u s i n c o m p a t i b i l i t y fails too? > You're right - my characterization of this situation as "stupid" They say I'm quick to judge, but hey, sometimes there's little choice, eh?> was entirely unwarranted in its generosity. Karl E. Peterson wrote:
> I suppose it's just as well, that I received the official word this week> They say I'm quick to judge, but hey, sometimes there's little choice, eh? that very soon I'm going to have to give up making any new uses of a certain TLA -- one which I very rarely ever bothered claiming, anyway. Oh ... what the heck ... one last time! Bob, VB MVP -- Bob O`Bob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Karl E. Peterson wrote: Just holler, should you ever want an @exMVPs.org email address.> >> They say I'm quick to judge, but hey, sometimes there's little choice, eh? > > I suppose it's just as well, that I received the official word this week > that very soon I'm going to have to give up making any new uses of > a certain TLA -- one which I very rarely ever bothered claiming, anyway. > > Oh ... what the heck ... one last time! > > > > Bob, > VB MVP Totally free, to all exMVPs and exMVPwannabes! They're becoming all the rage, I hear. :-) "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@exmvps.org> wrote in message Ex MVP wannabe?news:%23w80H%23mrJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | Just holler, should you ever want an @exMVPs.org email address. | | Totally free, to all exMVPs and exMVPwannabes! | | They're becoming all the rage, I hear. :-) Would that be defined as someone who used to want to be an MVP and changed their position when they realized that it had turned into a .net evangelical society? Online version of this thread. 40 posts so far:
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