http://blogs.artinsoft.net/fzoufaly/archive/2008/04/30/vb-runtime-not-in-next-windows.aspx

http://blogs.artinsoft.net/fzoufaly/archive/2008/04/30/vb-runtime-not-in-next-windows.aspx
Another MSFT stooge.  No surprise there.

Not another MSFT stooge.......

This blog is on the Artinsoft website. The auhor, or at least the guy that
was replying to comments, is part of Artinsoft in some way, and had written
the blog surely for advertising purposes, as that's what he was pushing,
either hiring Artisoft to convert for you, or to sell you there covnersion
component......whatever that is.

DanS wrote:
Yes, another MSFT stooge.  See: http://www.devx.com/vb/Article/16822

Takeaway:

   First, “we are breaking backward compatibility in VB.”
   And second, “we need a good upgrade story.”

Interesting sidenote on this outfit...

   Tom Button Joins ArtinSoft Board of Directors
   http://www.artinsoft.com/Tom%20Button%20Joins%20ArtinSoft%20Board%20of%20Directors.aspx

(Note they don't even know how to properly name Inter%20Web%20Files.)

Anyway, I left some "feedback" on that blog.  It hasn't appeared yet.  I bet it
doesn't.

Anyway, I left some "feedback" on that blog.  It hasn't appeared yet.  I
bet it
It's there.  <g>

Well said.

C Kevin Provance wrote:
Let's see if Part 2 makes it up. <g>

Thanks!  Kind of scattershot, as it's just off the cuff.  What I couldn't get over
was his above-it-all tone, and the dripping condescension of it all.  I gave him
credit for being somewhat honest in the DevX interview, but this was just slime.
Hard to see someone thinking that's the sort of CEO persona that'd benefit a
company!

On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:12:32 -0500, "C Kevin Provance"
<BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote:

I've just added my two-penny'orth. In case Bazookaly decides not to
include it, here it is again:

"But why do you seem to dislike .NET?  Why should it be bad for people
to evolve their apps?"

It's not about .NET, it's about the trashing by Microsoft of classic
Visual Basic, then daring to hand its birthright to a chimera known as
"Visual Basic" [spit] Dot Net. This "Visual Basic" of the .NET
persuasion is like an ugly sister who did go to the ball and made
everyone puke into their pockets. Where classic Visual Basic was, and
is, a joy to use, easy to learn, more flexible than a circus
contortionist and, above all, extremely powerful, "Visual Basic"
[spit] Dot Net is an abortion that should have got most of Microsoft
arrested for disservices to the computing fraternity. When "Visual
Basic" [spit] Dot Net was announced I bought a book on it. Yeah, I
actually spent money on "Visual Basic" [spit] Dot Net,. would you
believe! This was the work of another arch enthusiast, one Dan
Applebaum, in his seminal work entitled "Moving to VB [spit] .Net"
(Okay, the actual title doesn't contain any spit, but curiously I lose
control of my salivary glands whenever confronting the abortion known
as "Visual Basic" [spit] Dot Net. After all, you don't get an abortion
without some seminal work beforehand.)

Amongst the treasures in that book: "Many programmers will miss the
flexibility of being able to set the base for arrays." Well, yippee!
This new language is supposed to be an improvement and Microsoft
removes some key features? Sorry, no. Doesn't compute with me. And not
with tens of thousands of other classic Visual Basic programmers and
tens of thousands of businesses and start-ups that used, and use, it
either. Another favourite subheading from Dan's ramblings: "Everything
you know is now obsolete" Gee, thanks, Bill! Thanks, Dan! That REALLY
is a recommendation for how to win friends and influence people. Not!

Anyway, now that registration-free COM has been shown to work on XP,
Vista and Windows 7, classic Visual Basic has a whole new lease of
life ahead of it, like the cancer patient who IS cured, despite best
efforts of family members who were counting on an inheritance to pull
the tubes out. See! I always said OOP was nuts. I'm still waiting for
the shelves at PC World to sink under the weight of brand-new
applications written solely in "Visual Basic" [spit] Dot Net, but
maybe a DVD isn't big enough yet to accommodate the enormous runtime,
which, I'm led to believe, is several orders of magnitude larger than
what classic Visual Basic requires. Move to Blu-Ray, perhaps? I've
heard you can get up to 50gb onto one of those, more than enough,
surely, for the life support machine behind the "Visual Basic" [spit]
Dot Net monster.

MM

Because it's the forerunner to Micro$oft's vision of the future, a brave new
world where Micro$oft are the leaders in the new money spinning software
rental business. Oh, and also because they are a lying bunch of dishonest
fairground gypsies :-)

Mike

You may be correct...my mistake for taking an article at face value.



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DanS wrote:
Just found another apology piece:

http://blogs.artinsoft.net/fzoufaly/archive/2009/01/13/vb6-runtime-will-be-supported-on-windows-7-but-no-plans-to-support-it-on-future-version-of-windows.aspx

(Another example of, "I learned how to name files while working for Microsoft!",
huh? <g>)

The tripe overfloweth.  For example:

   "It’s just procrastination: The famous “if it ain’t broken don’t fix it!” … do I
have to comment on this??  May this be the reason why VB6 is still around?"

Yeah, I'd actually like to hear his comment on that.  Is he suggesting that in order
to stay busy, he needs to go around breaking things?  <rhetorical>I wonder what
influence in his life left him so bereft of positive self-motivation, don't
you?</rhetorical>

that in order
I had to throw in my 2 cents as well.  The short of it is, MSFT butt boys
like to tout how successful .NET is, but it's false logic.  Developers don't
have a choice in the matter.  It's the MSFT route or be tossed to the side.
If MSFT supported a VB Classic type VB and .NET and actually gave developers
a choice, those successful .NET numbers wouldn't be anything to crow about.

C Kevin Provance wrote:
If Microsoft had provided a way to run ClassicVB on the .NET platform, it (.NET)
would be ubiquitous now, and VB6 would be thought of much as VB3 is today.  Dumbest
business decision since New Coke!  But, dumber still, is the continuing inability to
recongize it.

uDKgYWSnJHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Yes it has "Kark" :-)
(sounds like an insult to me)

The poster seems to be in India. (?) It doesn't
surprise me that people post false nonsense, but
I find it strange that people often just stop by
for no apparent reason -- people who don't post
normally and who are not interested in discussion
of any kind -- but just decided for some reason to
post nonsense without thinking about it.

My VB6 apps run quite well in windows 7 beta.

As has been said here elsewhere, the Vb6 runtime is supported in Windows 7.
Basically the Windows 7 story for Vb6 is the same as the Vista story for
VB6.
As to that blog post, it was written in April 2008, so that was very early
days for Windows 7, and as the public betas have since proven, as too has
public announcements from Microsoft, Vb6 is supported on Windows 7. What is
funny is watching the usual characters from here start frothing at the mouth
over that post, especially those that failed to actually read the comments
where the author had already stated multiple times that VB6 was to be
supported... I guess they just couldn't let an opportunity at personal
attacks slip by their otherwise boring existence ;)


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That sums your existance up in a nutshell.  You should go away before you
start even more trouble.

de news: eLcsSAUnJHA.5***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Show quoteHide quoteThank you Bill, Kevin & Karl for my daily dose of humor and wonderment. !!!
The world has become a strange place when you can get your fun from a VB6
newsgroup rather than from lolcats.

BTW I am a staunch supporter of VB6 - but I have to use .Net.

Clive,

I had the same idea as you and then I readed your message.

Although I am a supporter from the newest VB versions and sometimes have to
use VB6

Cor

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Bill McCarthy wrote:
Yeah, that's fairly obvious, "Bob"...  <LOL>

I'll own up to being the first "Bob" back in May of last year.  I admit I
chickened out, being a bit disgruntled and thus not as polite as I could
have been.  I didn't really expect anyone else to ever read that blog post
though.

No clue who that other guy is.

Bob Riemersma wrote:
Funny how that happens, huh? <g>  I hadn't actually noticed there was an earlier
Bob.

Oh, there was a pretty good clue, alright.  There's only one guy here who has a Rush
Limbaugh-sized ego, and takes a good-natured joke about himself as an attack against
the entire country he lives in and all its inhabitants to which he must *personally*
rise in defense!  What would (poor, pathetic, little) Australia do without his help,
hmmm? <LOL>  Just when many thought Rush had *no* competition whatsoever in the
hyperbole department...

has a Rush
Is it me, or has Rush Limpball become to the Rupublicant party what
extremeists have become to Islam?  Sometimes the outrageous things he (and
Beck) says do as much damage as terrorist violence.  The pen, the
sword...what's the difference anymore?

I'd say I hope Rush fails too, but considering the Elvis level drugs he's
done and walks away unscathed?  Bloody hypocrite.  Just like that scrawny
little Aussie.  <g>

Rush called for a debate with Obama.  Obama's response should go something
like this:  "I'll be happy to debate you.  Gte your name on the 2012 GOP
ticket and we can have all the debates you want...otherwise sir, I have a
real job to do, which is to help enforce those rights that you take for
granted and abuse.  You know, the one's like Freedom of Speech which Bush
almost took away back in 2001.  The guy who really did bastardize the
Constitution."  Rush'll never do it.  He's a bloody coward who hides behind
a very biased microphone.

[snip]

Bob, my reg-free COM app is available for you to try out now. Check
your email!

MM

Got it!

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