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OT: Win 3.1Yeah, I know this is badly OT...but some things you just have to see for
yourself: http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_31_installed_on_Nokia_N95/1235418394 C Kevin Provance wrote:
> Yeah, I know this is badly OT...but some things you just have to see for Heh, more amusing still is another link on that page:> yourself: > > http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_31_installed_on_Nokia_N95/1235418394 Windows XP to Windows 7 upgrades: Difficult, but not impossible | Betanews http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_XP_to_Windows_7_upgrades_Difficult_but_not_impossible/1235440384 Be thankful for small blessings? ;-) "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message
http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_XP_to_Windows_7_upgrades_Difficult_but_not_impossible/1235440384
news:Olg2D1ilJHA.5112@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... |C Kevin Provance wrote: | Heh, more amusing still is another link on that page: | | Windows XP to Windows 7 upgrades: Difficult, but not impossible | Betanews | | Isn't there some adage about trains wrecks, and watching them, or something? | Be thankful for small blessings? ;-) Well, it applies here. <g> Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some 16 bit
development. <G> C Kevin Provance wrote: Show quoteHide quote > > Yeah, I know this is badly OT...but some things you just have to see for > yourself: > > http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_31_installed_on_Nokia_N95/1235418394 "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote in message Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-)news:49A3710D.1DEB8E61@erols.com... | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some 16 bit | development. <G> I've got you beat - still have VB-DOS disks somewhere!! :)
Show quoteHide quote "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message news:uPUzyRklJHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote in message > news:49A3710D.1DEB8E61@erols.com... > | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some 16 bit > | development. <G> > > Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) > > somewhere?
I've got you beat, I -know- where mine are <eg> Saga -- Show quoteHide quote"Daryl Muellenberg" <dmuellenbergNON@SPAMMEcomcast.net> wrote in message news:%23V2NbgqlJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I've got you beat - still have VB-DOS disks somewhere!! :) > > > > "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message > news:uPUzyRklJHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote in message >> news:49A3710D.1DEB8E61@erols.com... >> | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some 16 bit >> | development. <G> >> >> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) >> >> > > Saga wrote:
> "Daryl Muellenberg" <dmuellenbergNON@SPAMMEcomcast.net> wrote... Beat this!>> "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote... >>> "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote: >>> | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some 16 bit >>> | development. <G> >>> >>> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) >> >> I've got you beat - still have VB-DOS disks somewhere!! :) > > somewhere? > > I've got you beat, I -know- where mine are <eg> H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom IBM Personal Computer BASIC Compiler (C)Copyright IBM Corp 1982 Version 1.00 (C)Copyright Microsoft, Inc. 1982 Source filename [.BAS]: ^C H:\Common\Setups\PROGRA~1\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>dir Volume in drive H is work groups Volume Serial Number is 0C74-38DA Directory of H:\Common\Setups\PROGRA~1\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM 12/02/2003 11:57 AM <DIR> . 12/02/2003 11:57 AM <DIR> .. 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 41,600 BASCOM.COM 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 103,936 BASCOM.LIB 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 31,744 BASRUN.EXE 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 3,072 BASRUN.LIB 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 783 BIG.BAT 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 410 COM.BAT 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 86 CREATE.BAT 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 7,424 DEMO.BAS 07/26/2001 07:40 AM 52,816 Disk1.zip 07/26/2001 07:40 AM 74,297 Disk2.zip 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 546 EASY.BAT 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 3,200 IBMCOM.OBJ 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 41,856 LINK.EXE 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 127 SAMPLE.BAT 05/07/1982 11:00 AM 862 SUBRT.BAT 15 File(s) 362,759 bytes 2 Dir(s) 225,368,838,144 bytes free H:\Common\Setups\PROGRA~1\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM> <vbg> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Here is the problem with playing who can top who when it comes to BASIC and news:OswmnIrlJHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | Beat this! | | H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom VB: Karl has every single version of said software archived in some form or another, therefore no one else can win. ;-) C Kevin Provance wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote ... I gave it away too soon, again(!), didn't I? <g>>| Beat this! >| >| H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom > > Here is the problem with playing who can top who when it comes to BASIC and > VB: Karl has every single version of said software archived in some form or > another, therefore no one else can win. ;-) Not quite true, though. I'm still needing bits for QB1 to complete the collection.
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On Feb 24, 2:38 pm, "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote: Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like> C Kevin Provance wrote: > > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote ... > >| Beat this! > >| > >| H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom > > > Here is the problem with playing who can top who when it comes to BASIC and > > VB: Karl has every single version of said software archived in some form or > > another, therefore no one else can win. ;-) > > I gave it away too soon, again(!), didn't I? <g> > > Not quite true, though. I'm still needing bits for QB1 to complete the collection. > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org what I have is QB1.1... MS-DOS QBasic Version 1.1 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992 Oh, well :) -- Tom Shelton Tom Shelton wrote:
> Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like Ah, I got that one too. This, right?> what I have is QB1.1... > > MS-DOS QBasic > Version 1.1 > Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992 > > Oh, well :) 09/30/1993 05:20 AM 194,309 QBASIC.EXE But that's QBasic. What I'd really like to dig out is v1 of QuickBasic. This is v2: 06/16/1986 01:47 PM 186,256 QB.EXE Let's see if these line-draw characters survive in the modern world? +-------------------------¦ Microsoft QuickBASIC 2.0 ¦-------------------------+ ¦ +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ? ¦ ¦(C) Copyright Microsoft Corp. 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Press Shift-PrtSc to print this screen. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Press Esc to make this box go away. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Press F1 to view the help window. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +----------¦ Entering Commands in QuickBASIC +----------+ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Enter commands by selecting them from a menu. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Menu names are listed at the top of the display. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Each menu contains a list of commands. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ To display the commands in a menu: ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ 1. Hold down the Alt key. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ 2. Type the first letter of the menu name. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ To select a command from a menu: ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ 1. Use the Up/Down direction keys to highlight ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ the command (in reverse video). ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ 2. Press Enter. (the command will be executed) ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ To make a menu go away without executing a command: ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ + Press the Esc key. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +-------------------------------------------------------+ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ To Exit QuickBASIC: Select Quit from the File menu. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ To Load a Program: Select Load from the File menu. ¦ ¦ ¦ +-----------------------------------------------------------+ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ? +?¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦?+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ¦ Microsoft QuickBASIC Version 2.0 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +----------¦ Menu Selection +-----------+ +------¦ Shortcut Keys +-------+ ¦ ¦ ¦ Display Menu Alt-<first letter> ¦ ¦ Compile Program F5 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Select Command Up/Down ¦ ¦ Run Program ^R ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Execute Command Enter ¦ ¦ Display Next Error F6 ¦ ¦ ¦ +---------------------------------------+ ¦ Find Selected Text ^F ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Repeat Last Find F3 ¦ ¦ ¦ +----------¦ Cursor Movement +----------+ ¦ Undo Shift-Esc ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Left/Right One Word ^Left/^Right ¦ ¦ Cut Del ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Beginning/End of Line Home/End ¦ ¦ Copy F2 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Top/Bottom of Screen ^Home/^End ¦ ¦ Paste Ins ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Previous/Next Page PgUp/PgDn ¦ ¦ Display Help F1 ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Beginning/End of File ^PgUp/^PgDn ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +---------------------------------------+ +------------------------------+ ¦ ¦ Text Selection ¦ ¦ +--------------¦ Editing +--------------+ Use cursor motion keys with ¦ ¦ ¦ Delete Current Line ^Y ¦ either (left or right) Shift ¦ ¦ ¦ Delete Selected Text Del ¦ key held down ¦ ¦ ¦ Delete to Right of Cursor Shift-Bksp ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ Insert Line Above/Below ^N/^B ¦ ¦ ¦ +---------------------------------------+ Press Enter to return to Editor ¦ +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ On 2009-02-25, Karl E. Peterson <k***@mvps.org> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Tom Shelton wrote: Yep... that's the one.>> Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like >> what I have is QB1.1... >> >> MS-DOS QBasic >> Version 1.1 >> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992 >> >> Oh, well :) > > Ah, I got that one too. This, right? > > 09/30/1993 05:20 AM 194,309 QBASIC.EXE > > But that's QBasic. What I'd really like to dig out is v1 of QuickBasic. This is Right... Earlieast QuickBasic I have is 4.5. > v2: -- Tom Shelton Yesterday I have dropped my floppy box in the gargadge, I now have only 3
empty floppy disks. Not that it is important what I did, but that is egal in this complete thread :-) CorShow quoteHide quote "Tom Shelton" <tom_shel***@comcastXXXXXXX.net> wrote in message news:OdsYhVvlJHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > On 2009-02-25, Karl E. Peterson <k***@mvps.org> wrote: >> Tom Shelton wrote: >>> Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like >>> what I have is QB1.1... >>> >>> MS-DOS QBasic >>> Version 1.1 >>> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992 >>> >>> Oh, well :) >> >> Ah, I got that one too. This, right? >> >> 09/30/1993 05:20 AM 194,309 QBASIC.EXE >> > > Yep... that's the one. > >> But that's QBasic. What I'd really like to dig out is v1 of QuickBasic. >> This is >> v2: > > Right... Earlieast QuickBasic I have is 4.5. > > -- > Tom Shelton > From:* "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install it on a W98> > "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote in message > news:49A3710D.1DEB8E61@erols.com... > | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some > 16 bit > | development. <G> > > Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok! Regards John (john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk) Remove the obvious to reply... John K.Eason wrote:
>> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) Oh man, you're playing with fire! I actually went through my old floppy filing > > I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install it on a W98 > machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok! cases a few years ago, and burned VFDs of all that mattered using WinImage. Sadly, about 3-5% were totally unreadable after 20-odd years sitting on the shelf. > *From:* "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> I should have added that I would have used my backup copies (on CD) if I'd found> > John K.Eason wrote: > >> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) > > > > I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install > > it on a W98 > > machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok! > > Oh man, you're playing with fire! I actually went through my old > floppy filing cases a few years ago, and burned VFDs of all that > mattered using WinImage. Sadly, about 3-5% were totally unreadable > after 20-odd years sitting on the shelf. any dead floppies, but I thought I'd see if they were still ok first! :^) Regards John (john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk) Remove the obvious to reply... John K.Eason wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >> *From:* "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> You can't actually bring yourself to throw them away, either, eh? <g>>> >> John K.Eason wrote: >> >> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) >> > >> > I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install >> > it on a W98 >> > machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok! >> >> Oh man, you're playing with fire! I actually went through my old >> floppy filing cases a few years ago, and burned VFDs of all that >> mattered using WinImage. Sadly, about 3-5% were totally unreadable >> after 20-odd years sitting on the shelf. > > I should have added that I would have used my backup copies (on CD) if I'd found > any dead floppies, but I thought I'd see if they were still ok first! :^) > *From:* "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> Nope! :^)> You can't actually bring yourself to throw them away, either, eh? > <g> Regards John (john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk) Remove the obvious to reply...
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"John K.Eason" <john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk> wrote in message I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.news:memo.20090224190022.1440A@jeason.compulink.co.uk... >> From:* "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> >> >> "Stan Weiss" <srwe***@erols.com> wrote in message >> news:49A3710D.1DEB8E61@erols.com... >> | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some >> 16 bit >> | development. <G> >> >> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still). ;-) > > I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install it on a W98 > machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok! > > Regards > John (john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk) Remove the obvious to reply... Galen Galen Somerville wrote:
> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r>"Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Wow. Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served. <eg>news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | Galen Somerville wrote: | > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. | | I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r> "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message I know. I'm not even going to mention the 8 inch floppies.news:uALAQdtlJHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | Galen Somerville wrote: > | > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. > | > | I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r> > > Wow. Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served. <eg> > > Galen "Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> wrote in message Oh boy. Makes me want to go watch WarGames. <g>news:uiGsjzulJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | I know. I'm not even going to mention the 8 inch floppies.
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"Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> skrev i meddelandet Hmm, funny thing you *mentioned* it. I still have, from my first homebuilt news:uiGsjzulJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message > news:uALAQdtlJHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> | Galen Somerville wrote: >> | > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. >> | >> | I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... >> <gd&r> >> >> Wow. Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served. <eg> >> >> > > I know. I'm not even going to mention the 8 inch floppies. > > Galen > > development system for CDP180X, a Pertec dual 8" SCSI drive. It's a huge 19" rackmount dev. weight 32 kg!!! At the time it cost me converted to today value some 150' SEK, about $15000! For the 5.25 I have my first PC clone. 4.77 MHz, extended to 640 kB RAM and a later mounted 10 MB HD. At the time the HD was so large I split it into 2 partitions. :)) Woww, nostalgia flows... /Henning
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"Henning" <computer_h***@coldmail.com> wrote in message My first development system was an Intel ISIS II which had been expanded to 32K of RAM. It news:49a5256d$0$16212$57c3e1d3@news3.bahnhof.se... > > "Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> skrev i meddelandet > news:uiGsjzulJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message >> news:uALAQdtlJHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> | Galen Somerville wrote: >>> | > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. >>> | >>> | I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r> >>> >>> Wow. Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served. <eg> >>> >>> >> >> I know. I'm not even going to mention the 8 inch floppies. >> >> Galen >> >> > > Hmm, funny thing you *mentioned* it. I still have, from my first homebuilt development > system for CDP180X, a Pertec dual 8" SCSI drive. It's a huge 19" rackmount dev. weight > 32 kg!!! At the time it cost me converted to today value some 150' SEK, about $15000! > > For the 5.25 I have my first PC clone. 4.77 MHz, extended to 640 kB RAM and a later > mounted 10 MB HD. At the time the HD was so large I split it into 2 partitions. :)) > > Woww, nostalgia flows... > > /Henning > > handled both the original 8080 and the new 8085 processors. The dual 8" floppy cabinet was huge. It was some sort of cast metal and weighed a ton. Galen
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"Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> wrote in message 8" floppies, sheer luxury, I've still got something I wrote in the news:uiGsjzulJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> wrote in message > news:uALAQdtlJHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> | Galen Somerville wrote: >> | > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. >> | >> | I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... >> <gd&r> >> >> Wow. Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served. <eg> >> >> > > I know. I'm not even going to mention the 8 inch floppies. > > Galen pre-microprocessor days when I was a school kid which is on punched tape We had access to a Varian V70 minicomputer at the local college - lovely machine, user access was on ASR33 teletypes, each user had up to 8k of core and I mean "core", the memory was ferrite beads. The next machine I used was a IBM 1130 which was a punched card batch process machine - horrible. After that I made a Zilog Z80 based machine with a 8" drive and a staggering 5k ram (5 x 9 1k chips all hand soldered) and a monitor which was a portable B+W TV and I connected the output from the computer directly to the gun on the TV, scary! Dave O.
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"Dave O." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message I would say this qualifies you for the Geek of the Board award. :-)news:uhd4iFAmJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | 8" floppies, sheer luxury, I've still got something I wrote in the | pre-microprocessor days when I was a school kid which is on punched tape | We had access to a Varian V70 minicomputer at the local college - lovely | machine, user access was on ASR33 teletypes, each user had up to 8k of core | and I mean "core", the memory was ferrite beads. The next machine I used was | a IBM 1130 which was a punched card batch process machine - horrible. After | that I made a Zilog Z80 based machine with a 8" drive and a staggering 5k | ram (5 x 9 1k chips all hand soldered) and a monitor which was a portable | B+W TV and I connected the output from the computer directly to the gun on | the TV, scary!
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"C Kevin Provance" <BillMRapedMySh***@.netblows.ms> skrev i meddelandet I could send him a box of unused punch-tape if he still have a news:%23RcTddBmJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Dave O." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:uhd4iFAmJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | 8" floppies, sheer luxury, I've still got something I wrote in the > | pre-microprocessor days when I was a school kid which is on punched tape > | We had access to a Varian V70 minicomputer at the local college - lovely > | machine, user access was on ASR33 teletypes, each user had up to 8k of > core > | and I mean "core", the memory was ferrite beads. The next machine I used > was > | a IBM 1130 which was a punched card batch process machine - horrible. > After > | that I made a Zilog Z80 based machine with a 8" drive and a staggering > 5k > | ram (5 x 9 1k chips all hand soldered) and a monitor which was a > portable > | B+W TV and I connected the output from the computer directly to the gun > on > | the TV, scary! > > I would say this qualifies you for the Geek of the Board award. :-) > > punch-writer/reader. ;) /Henning "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> skrev i meddelandet Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them news:ey$pikslJHA.5028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Galen Somerville wrote: >> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. > > I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r> > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;) /Henning Henning wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> skrev ... That's a pretty good trick, these days. You have to get up in the attic to find a >> Galen Somerville wrote: >>> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. >> >> I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r> > > Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them > diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;) machine old enough to still support one of those drives. (I know, I tried salvaging what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!) And, although it's not too hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a 5.25" external. "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message to find anews:%23pQLp6tlJHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | That's a pretty good trick, these days. You have to get up in the attic | machine old enough to still support one of those drives. (I know, I tried http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ5Q2e25Q20externalQ20driveQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZsalvaging | what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!) And, although it's not too | hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a 5.25" external. C Kevin Provance wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote ... Those are just for Apples, no? And they're SCSI, not USB. :-(> >| That's a pretty good trick, these days. You have to get up in the attic to find >a >| machine old enough to still support one of those drives. (I know, I tried >| salvaging what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!) And, although >| it's not too hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a >| 5.25" external. > > http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ5Q2e25Q20externalQ20driveQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Picky, picky! :Pnews:Ol2uxGulJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | | Those are just for Apples, no? And they're SCSI, not USB. :-( Doesn't seem like they make a 5.25 usb drive. BUT...I did find this: http://www.usb-port.com/bf660.html SCSI to USB adapter. C Kevin Provance wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message OMG! $84?!?!? <LOL> I think I'd rather put that towards a Mac! <vbg>> news:Ol2uxGulJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >| >| Those are just for Apples, no? And they're SCSI, not USB. :-( > > Picky, picky! :P > > Doesn't seem like they make a 5.25 usb drive. BUT...I did find this: > http://www.usb-port.com/bf660.html > > SCSI to USB adapter. "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Well, no one said entertaining nostalgia would be cheap. <g>news:e74HNeulJHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... |C Kevin Provance wrote: | OMG! $84?!?!? <LOL> I think I'd rather put that towards a Mac! <vbg> I was amazed to see how big a demand there was for external 5.25 floppy drives out there (lots of requests on newsgroups and the like). I would how hard it would be to put one together from an old internal drive and make it an external USB drive? It wouldn't be the prettiest piece of hardware, but very possible I would imagine. C Kevin Provance wrote:
> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote ... I'm sure a guy could make a nice little side income, or at least pay for a few >|C Kevin Provance wrote: >| OMG! $84?!?!? <LOL> I think I'd rather put that towards a Mac! <vbg> > > Well, no one said entertaining nostalgia would be cheap. <g> > > I was amazed to see how big a demand there was for external 5.25 floppy > drives out there (lots of requests on newsgroups and the like). I would how > hard it would be to put one together from an old internal drive and make it > an external USB drive? It wouldn't be the prettiest piece of hardware, but > very possible I would imagine. dinners out <g>, selling those. Doesn't seem to be *any* out there.
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"Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message I went through that just about a year or so ago. I had a bunch of stuff on news:%23pQLp6tlJHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Henning wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> skrev ... >>> Galen Somerville wrote: >>>> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it. >>> >>> I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... >>> <gd&r> >> >> Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them >> diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;) > > That's a pretty good trick, these days. You have to get up in the attic > to find a machine old enough to still support one of those drives. (I > know, I tried salvaging what were still on my old floppies a few years > ago!) And, although it's not too hard to find a 3.5" external floppy > drive, I never could find a 5.25" external. 5.25 floppies. With virtualization now an easy thing to do (via Virtual PC from MS and products from other vendors), I thought it'd be interesting to revisit some of those old programs and games. I had a bunch of Sierra games and I've always liked, and still do, the Infocom text games. Anyone remember Leather Goddesses of Phobos? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Goddesses_of_Phobos). Classic! First I tried connecting the 5.25 drive to a relatively newer PC (about 4 years old). Drive wouldn't work with it even though the BIOS supposedly had "support" for a 5.25 drive (the BIOS listed a 1.2 MB 5.25 floppy but the computer wouldn't boot with that selected) . So, I ended up having to dig out an even older computer (probably about 10 years old) and copy all the 5.25 disks to 3.5 disks. I was kinda amazed that both this old computer and the 5.25 drive still worked. But I did get all those 5.25 disks copied onto 3.5 disks. Of course, now it's even harder to find a computer that comes with a 3.5 floppy disk drive, so I probably should have copied everything to the hard drive or a CD/DVD. Oh well. That'll give me something else to do when the time comes. <g> -- Mike MikeD wrote:
> I went through that just about a year or so ago. I had a bunch of stuff on 'zactly what I was thinking, yeah!> 5.25 floppies. With virtualization now an easy thing to do (via Virtual PC > from MS and products from other vendors), I thought it'd be interesting to > revisit some of those old programs and games. > I had a bunch of Sierra games Heh, now you've done it. You're officially unelectable as of that post. ;-)> and I've always liked, and still do, the Infocom text games. Anyone > remember Leather Goddesses of Phobos? > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Goddesses_of_Phobos). Classic! > I tried connecting the 5.25 drive to a relatively newer PC (about 4 years That's pretty much what I did. I resurrected an old P5/200 and got Win95 running on > old). Drive wouldn't work with it even though the BIOS supposedly had > "support" for a 5.25 drive (the BIOS listed a 1.2 MB 5.25 floppy but the > computer wouldn't boot with that selected) . So, I ended up having to dig > out an even older computer (probably about 10 years old) and copy all the > 5.25 disks to 3.5 disks. I was kinda amazed that both this old computer and > the 5.25 drive still worked. it. It still had both sizes of floppies, and they both worked! (I think it was the 2nd or 3rd swap that I finally got the 5.25 going, though.) > But I did get all those 5.25 disks copied onto There ya go. I used WinImage to build VFDs of each floppy as I read them -- both > 3.5 disks. Of course, now it's even harder to find a computer that comes > with a 3.5 floppy disk drive, so I probably should have copied everything to > the hard drive or a CD/DVD. Oh well. That'll give me something else to do > when the time comes. <g> sizes. They can be dragged right into a VM, now, and it's as if they were plugged into the floppy. 
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