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IE browser: how to refresh it?Hello,
I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh all opened IE windows. Is that possible? Jack I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window,
but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed something. ( which is entirely possible ) Even the keyboard F5 button only refreshes the window that has focus. -- Show quoteSteve Easton "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:OVaLKC9JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hello, > I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh all opened IE windows. > Is that possible? > Jack > > I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, Is that the ShellWindows code? Each Item> but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed > something. ( which is entirely possible ) in ShellWindows returns an IE object. (Open IE instances should return a valid IE object. Folders are a little different. The IE object is a kind of hokey Active Desktop object, and in XP there's actually no IE window there at all.) But if you just want to refresh IE itself, IE has a method Refresh. It should work to just do it in a For/Each iteration of open Shell windows. "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message news:ODJvVn%23JIHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Not in IE 7, they've changed the rules.> >> I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, >> but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed >> something. ( which is entirely possible ) > > Is that the ShellWindows code? Each Item > in ShellWindows returns an IE object. (Open > IE instances should return a valid IE object. > Folders are a little different. The IE object is > a kind of hokey Active Desktop object, and > in XP there's actually no IE window there at > all.) In IE 6 you could grab the hwnd and refresh using that. IE 7 requires a specific object ( IE instance ) because one hwnd can have several windows ( tabs ) You might be able to grab the hwnd > But if you just want to refresh IE itself, IE has It might and it might not.> a method Refresh. It should work to just do > it in a For/Each iteration of open Shell windows. > Especially in Vista. Refresh only works against an instance of the IE object. If you programmatically launch an instance of IE WithEvents in Vista as a standard user, using an IE object, the events fail and the refresh will return a "object has disconnected from server" error, because there is a hidden instance of IE that is launched and then disposed, but it has stolen the focus of the IE object Genuine pita. However if you launch it using "Run as Administrator" everything works fine, except IE is launched with Protected Mode OFF. That was the basis of my run time error post of 11/8/07 and then my posts about doubles and objects and events 11/11/07 Drove me nuts until I figured it out. I should say until Kevin Provance pointed me to MZ-Tools -- Steve Easton > I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately I don't> IE 7 requires a specific object ( IE instance ) > because one hwnd can have several windows ( tabs ) > You might be able to grab the hwnd > have access to IE7 here. It might be interesting to run Spy++ to see how that lays out. In general, a "real" browser window is of class "Internet Explorer_Server". But that's never the top-level window. you have to get at it with something like EnumChildWindows. It may be feasible to do such an enum. on the parent window and "visit" each tab window. > If you programmatically launch an instance of IE WithEvents in Vista Ick! What's the hidden window for?> as a standard user, using an IE object, the events fail and the refresh will return > a "object has disconnected from server" error, because there is a hidden instance of > IE that is launched and then disposed, but it has stolen the focus of the IE object > Genuine pita. >
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"mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message news:ekfnd0AKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Won't work for what I'm doing becasue I nedd to control a> > >> IE 7 requires a specific object ( IE instance ) >> because one hwnd can have several windows ( tabs ) >> You might be able to grab the hwnd >> > > I hadn't thought of that. Unfortunately I don't > have access to IE7 here. It might be interesting > to run Spy++ to see how that lays out. In general, > a "real" browser window is of class "Internet Explorer_Server". > But that's never the top-level window. you have > to get at it with something like EnumChildWindows. > It may be feasible to do such an enum. on the > parent window and "visit" each tab window. specific instance and use WithEvents. >> If you programmatically launch an instance of IE WithEvents in Vista I believe it's used to establish the level of "rights" that's>> as a standard user, using an IE object, the events fail and the refresh > will return >> a "object has disconnected from server" error, because there is a hidden > instance of >> IE that is launched and then disposed, but it has stolen the focus of the > IE object >> Genuine pita. >> > > Ick! What's the hidden window for? > granted to the browser window in Vista. Part of the automatic IE 7 "Protected Mode" feature in Vista. I've spent several months trying to sort this out. MSDN documentation for this is not the best, and every link that is "supposedly" for Visual Basic developers applies to VB.NET I've thought about redoing the whole thing in .NET, but something about taking a 52kb compiled app and turning it into a bloated, slow to load 300kb app just burns my butt. -- Steve Easton > I've thought about redoing the whole thing in .NET, but something about And don't forget about the 100 MB runtime. Mark> taking a 52kb compiled app and turning it into a bloated, slow to load > 300kb app just burns my butt. > Russinovich wrote an interesting article a couple of years ago titled "The Coming .NET World - I'm scared" (which has mysteriously gone missing since he sold out to MS) comparing the memory load of normal software with that of .Net software, and noting that a barebones ..Net version of Notepad was taking up 8 MB of private memory at startup, compared to less than 1 MB for Notepad itself. He ended the article with joking speculation that maybe MS was getting a cut of RAM sales. Then Vista came out and suddenly it seems rational to say things like, "I have 1GB of RAM but Vista is still slow. Should I buy another GB?" I suppose the .Net bloat will end up being a barely noticeable dustball under the rubbish pile of Vista's shocking overbuild. Unfortunately, it seems that the days of using IE, in anything after XP SP1, are pretty much gone. I've always avoided IE online but used it for all sorts of automations in scripting offline. It was great for that. But since XP SP2 there's too much security for IE to be dependable offline, except on one's own, specifically adjusted PC.
http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
Show quote "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23h6wLIGKIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> I've thought about redoing the whole thing in .NET, but something about >> taking a 52kb compiled app and turning it into a bloated, slow to load >> 300kb app just burns my butt. >> > And don't forget about the 100 MB runtime. Mark > Russinovich wrote an interesting article a couple of > years ago titled "The Coming .NET World - I'm scared" > (which has mysteriously gone missing since he sold out > to MS) comparing the memory load of normal software > with that of .Net software, and noting that a barebones > .Net version of Notepad was taking up 8 MB of private > memory at startup, compared to less than 1 MB for > Notepad itself. He ended the article with joking > speculation that maybe MS was getting a cut of RAM > sales. > Then Vista came out and suddenly it seems rational > to say things like, "I have 1GB of RAM but Vista is still > slow. Should I buy another GB?" > I suppose the .Net bloat will end up being a barely noticeable > dustball under the rubbish pile of Vista's shocking overbuild. > > Unfortunately, it seems that the days of using IE, > in anything after XP SP1, are pretty much gone. I've always > avoided IE online but used it for all sorts of automations > in scripting offline. It was great for that. But since XP > SP2 there's too much security for IE to be dependable > offline, except on one's own, specifically adjusted PC. > >
Ah. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. :)
I love safari, I must confess. Damn fast rendering - much faster than IE &
FF. Windows version is nice too; just takes a few seconds to load, like FF does. Not at all as bad as loading Netscape, though. Only problem I've encountered is it doesn't set the proper reg keys to remain the default browser. "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message Ah. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. :)news:%23Swd$iGKIHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ > > I love safari, I must confess. Damn fast rendering - much faster than IE I thought you were just kidding about that.& > FF. Windows version is nice too; just takes a few seconds to load, like FF > does. Not at all as bad as loading Netscape, though. Only problem I've > encountered is it doesn't set the proper reg keys to remain the default > browser. > Have you partially moved to Macs? Your post seems to be written on Vista, but then you said, "Windows version is nice too". Unfortunately, it appears that Windows Safari will only run on XP/Vista, so I'll have to pass on trying it out. I've noticed that about Apple: They seem to be worse than anyone else about supporting older software. I guess they can get away with that when their fans are waiting in lines outside the Apple store for the next version. I'm using an iMac now, with vista and xp running as virtual machines using
Parallels. Ordered my new "real" box just on Wednesday, so got a couple of more weeks on this. Great graphics on it, and internet connection is tons faster than vista or xp (using the same router connection for all). But just no productivity software I'm interested in, or interested in re-buying for to get a mac version (i.e. adobe's creating suite). "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message I thought you were just kidding about that.news:ONcx3DLKIHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I love safari, I must confess. Damn fast rendering - much faster than IE & > FF. Windows version is nice too; just takes a few seconds to load, like FF > does. Not at all as bad as loading Netscape, though. Only problem I've > encountered is it doesn't set the proper reg keys to remain the default > browser. > Have you partially moved to Macs? Your post seems to be written on Vista, but then you said, "Windows version is nice too". Unfortunately, it appears that Windows Safari will only run on XP/Vista, so I'll have to pass on trying it out. I've noticed that about Apple: They seem to be worse than anyone else about supporting older software. I guess they can get away with that when their fans are waiting in lines outside the Apple store for the next version. > I'm using an iMac now, with vista and xp running as virtual machines using Oooh. Snazzy. :)> Parallels. Snazzy, yes. But I have a new blackbird on order. Pretty as a mac is, I have
to get back to a real os. "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message Oooh. Snazzy. :)news:u62S7hNKIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I'm using an iMac now, with vista and xp running as virtual machines using > Parallels. > Snazzy, yes. But I have a new blackbird on order. Pretty as a mac is, I I've been surprised by how many people actually *are*have > to get back to a real os. > switching to Macs lately. I read recently that they now account for 8% of PC sales in the US. And I know a number of people personally. My niece bought a Mac and put XP on it. Then she ended up just switching to the Mac because of virus problems. That seems to be the big factor that turns people to Macs: The constant threat of losing their system to a bug, and not knowing how to prevent it. I used to think of a Mac as a car with the hood welded shut, while Windows was a car that I could work on myself. And Windows even came with lots of great tools to help me work. But as Windows increasingly has its own hood welded shut, the choice between Mac and Windows is beginning to look more like a choice between a dependable, if overpriced, VW - and a Rambler. It's almost enough to make me join the long line of Apple Seeds outside the Mac store who are feverishly waiting for their chance to pay Steve Jobs for the chance to "think different". :) "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message You can say what you like about the PC but one thing it has achieved for news:uj%23js8fKIHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I've been surprised by how many people actually *are* > switching to Macs lately. I read recently that they now > account for 8% of PC sales in the US. absolute certainty is that it has driven down the cost of computing to levels that would have been undreamt of if Apple machines had taken the lead all those years ago, while at the same time driving up the performance to amazing levels. In an imaginary computing world that had been dominated by Apple for the last ten or twenty years we would today be paying enormous sums of money for what would almost certainly be much less powerful machines. As it is, Apple has lost the "pc war" and is today concentrating on attempting to charge large sums of money for a new iPhone that is locked to a single service provider and that they are threating to cripple if people attempt to unlock them. There is no way I would give a single penny to Apple! Long live the PC! Mike "mayayana" <mayaXXyan***@mindXXspring.com> wrote in message Very nice analogy.news:uj%23js8fKIHA.3992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > I used to think of a Mac as a car with the hood welded > shut, while Windows was a car that I could work on > myself. And Windows even came with lots of great tools to > help me work. > But as Windows increasingly has its own hood welded shut, Sadly, it will take ages for MS to figure out that welding the hood shut makes Windows a less useful OS, and that locking away some of the tools reduces development of useful software for it. Hopefully I can get the mortgage paid and retire, before it morphs into a sealed black box.:) To make things more difficult.
I have found out that normal 'Refresh' is not what I need. What I need is to "refresh" all IE windows that way that the extention menu will be shown in the mouse right click pop-up. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\MenuExt Is that possible without closing and reopening IE window? Thanks, Jack Show quote "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:en3e3K9JIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, > but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed > something. ( which is entirely possible ) > Even the keyboard F5 button only refreshes the window that has focus. > > > -- > > Steve Easton > > > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message > news:OVaLKC9JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Hello, >> I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh >> all opened IE windows. >> Is that possible? >> Jack >> > > You want to add an entry in the right click context menu that will refresh
"all" open browser windows? -- Show quoteSteve Easton "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:%238eIRu%23JIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > To make things more difficult. > I have found out that normal 'Refresh' is not what I need. > What I need is to "refresh" all IE windows that way that the extention menu will be shown in the mouse right > click pop-up. > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\MenuExt > Is that possible without closing and reopening IE window? > Thanks, > Jack > > > "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:en3e3K9JIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, >> but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed >> something. ( which is entirely possible ) >> Even the keyboard F5 button only refreshes the window that has focus. >> >> >> -- >> >> Steve Easton >> >> >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:OVaLKC9JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Hello, >>> I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh all opened IE windows. >>> Is that possible? >>> Jack >>> >> >> > > No.
I want to add an entry to the pop-up menu and then "refresh" all windows so the added menu will be visible. Jack Show quote "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:e7q58H$JIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You want to add an entry in the right click context menu that will refresh > "all" open browser windows? > > -- > > Steve Easton > > > > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message > news:%238eIRu%23JIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> To make things more difficult. >> I have found out that normal 'Refresh' is not what I need. >> What I need is to "refresh" all IE windows that way that the extention >> menu will be shown in the mouse right click pop-up. >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\MenuExt >> Is that possible without closing and reopening IE window? >> Thanks, >> Jack >> >> >> "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message >> news:en3e3K9JIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, >>> but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed >>> something. ( which is entirely possible ) >>> Even the keyboard F5 button only refreshes the window that has focus. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Steve Easton >>> >>> >>> >>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >>> news:OVaLKC9JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Hello, >>>> I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh >>>> all opened IE windows. >>>> Is that possible? >>>> Jack >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > The only way you can "add" an entry to the right click context menu, requires that you close and reopen IE.
It requires an entry in HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extensions with a GUID and clsid specially created for your context menu entry. Then you have to have the entry fire an application that refreshes the page(s) Something like this: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extensions\{GUID}] "MenuText"="appname" "Default Visible"="Yes" "MenuStatusBar"="appname" "ButtonText"="appname" "Icon"="C:\\Program Files\\appname\\appname.exe,1" "HotIcon"="C:\\Program Files\\appname\\appname.exe,1" "Exec"="C:\\Program Files\\appname\\appname.exe" "clsid"="{clsid}" "UseWinFolder"="0" -- Show quoteSteve Easton "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:OD52Yn$JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > No. > I want to add an entry to the pop-up menu and then "refresh" all windows so the added menu will be visible. > Jack > > "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:e7q58H$JIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> You want to add an entry in the right click context menu that will refresh >> "all" open browser windows? >> >> -- >> >> Steve Easton >> >> >> >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:%238eIRu%23JIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> To make things more difficult. >>> I have found out that normal 'Refresh' is not what I need. >>> What I need is to "refresh" all IE windows that way that the extention menu will be shown in the mouse >>> right click pop-up. >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\MenuExt >>> Is that possible without closing and reopening IE window? >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> >>> "Steve Easton" <ad***@95isalive.com> wrote in message news:en3e3K9JIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> I'm just finishing up an app that will do one browser window, >>>> but I don't see how you can do all of them unless I've missed >>>> something. ( which is entirely possible ) >>>> Even the keyboard F5 button only refreshes the window that has focus. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Steve Easton >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:OVaLKC9JIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I am looking for the method how to programmatically refresh all opened IE windows. >>>>> Is that possible? >>>>> Jack >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >  |
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