Next Version of VB Dubbed 'VBx'
Paul Vick dishes on Microsoft's reboot of Visual Basic.

http://www.ftponline.com/channels/net/2007_05/ckanaracus/

lol @ MS

No one said "native" EXE or DLL. The term was "traditional," and in the
sense of .NET that means a managed assembly.

    I think you're right. They seem to be referring to
the .Net "EXE". But the "VBx" thing sounds like it's
even further from an EXE. They seem to be talking
about what used to be called "webpage scripting":

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"Part of VBx, however, is to be a "hostable managed component" running atop
the DLR, writes Vick. That will allow Silverlight to compile VB source code
on the fly - even on browsers running on a Mac."
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    If I interpret that correctly they're saying, "We decided
to steal this Roman numeral silliness from Apple because
it seems to increase sales. So for now we're calling
our new stuff "VBx". But once we get tired of that we're
going to name it "VBScript". It's the new VBScript - better
than the old VBScript because it has a gigantic runtime
behind it."   :)

   I suspect they're going to need more than Roman
numeral good luck charms to sell "Silverlight". Adobe
already has the market. Sun is playing catch-up with Java.
Silverlight won't run on Linux and, as I understand it,
is limited on Macs. And to top it all off... Who the heck,
in these times of security concerns, really wants any
of that crap - silverlight, flash, apollo, javafx, etc. -
running in their browser and blurring the local/remote
distinction?!

¤
¤ > > Next Version of VB Dubbed 'VBx'
¤ > > Paul Vick dishes on Microsoft's reboot of Visual Basic.
¤ > >
¤ > > http://www.ftponline.com/channels/net/2007_05/ckanaracus/
¤ > >
¤ > > lol @ MS
¤ >
¤ > No one said "native" EXE or DLL. The term was "traditional," and in the
¤ > sense of .NET that means a managed assembly.
¤ >
¤     I think you're right. They seem to be referring to
¤ the .Net "EXE". But the "VBx" thing sounds like it's
¤ even further from an EXE. They seem to be talking
¤ about what used to be called "webpage scripting":

That's part of it. They're essentially developing four languages that support dynamic capabilities
and can be hosted in other environments. Visual Basic is one of them. Also note that another is
called Ruby.

¤ -------------
¤ "Part of VBx, however, is to be a "hostable managed component" running atop
¤ the DLR, writes Vick. That will allow Silverlight to compile VB source code
¤ on the fly - even on browsers running on a Mac."
¤ -------------
¤
¤     If I interpret that correctly they're saying, "We decided
¤ to steal this Roman numeral silliness from Apple because
¤ it seems to increase sales. So for now we're calling
¤ our new stuff "VBx". But once we get tired of that we're
¤ going to name it "VBScript". It's the new VBScript - better
¤ than the old VBScript because it has a gigantic runtime
¤ behind it."   :)

It's just the code name. I suspect that their having a little bit of fun with it.

¤    I suspect they're going to need more than Roman
¤ numeral good luck charms to sell "Silverlight". Adobe
¤ already has the market. Sun is playing catch-up with Java.
¤ Silverlight won't run on Linux and, as I understand it,
¤ is limited on Macs. And to top it all off... Who the heck,
¤ in these times of security concerns, really wants any
¤ of that crap - silverlight, flash, apollo, javafx, etc. -
¤ running in their browser and blurring the local/remote
¤ distinction?!
¤

I wonder the same thing every time someone offers Google apps as an alternative to Office. ;-)


Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)

alternative to Office. ;-)

    Indeed. Google also takes the position that they own
the content of what passes through gmail. So the idea of
Google office gives me the creeps in more ways than one.
But I'm guessing that you're not applying that same
skepticism to the .Net family of security threats.

¤ >
¤ > ¤    I suspect they're going to need more than Roman
¤ > ¤ numeral good luck charms to sell "Silverlight". Adobe
¤ > ¤ already has the market. Sun is playing catch-up with Java.
¤ > ¤ Silverlight won't run on Linux and, as I understand it,
¤ > ¤ is limited on Macs. And to top it all off... Who the heck,
¤ > ¤ in these times of security concerns, really wants any
¤ > ¤ of that crap - silverlight, flash, apollo, javafx, etc. -
¤ > ¤ running in their browser and blurring the local/remote
¤ > ¤ distinction?!
¤ > ¤
¤ >
¤ > I wonder the same thing every time someone offers Google apps as an
¤ alternative to Office. ;-)
¤
¤     Indeed. Google also takes the position that they own
¤ the content of what passes through gmail. So the idea of
¤ Google office gives me the creeps in more ways than one.
¤ But I'm guessing that you're not applying that same
¤ skepticism to the .Net family of security threats.

Let's just say that we get fewer calls about our desktop apps than we do our web apps. It has
nothing to do with .NET. ;-)

The bottom line is that there's always risk when you operate across a network, whether it's an issue
of security or availability. For this reason you have to accept that at times your  productivity
apps, such as word processors or spreadsheet applications, won't be available if they're being
operated over the network.


Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)

Paul Clement <UseAdddressAtEndofMess***@swspectrum.com> wrote:
Boy...  VBx...  Ruby...  <cntl><alt><del>

Vuja de!

So, two more verions after that, they *may* have something someone cares about? <g>

¤ > ¤     I think you're right. They seem to be referring to
¤ > ¤ the .Net "EXE". But the "VBx" thing sounds like it's
¤ > ¤ even further from an EXE. They seem to be talking
¤ > ¤ about what used to be called "webpage scripting":
¤ >
¤ > That's part of it. They're essentially developing four languages that support
¤ > dynamic capabilities and can be hosted in other environments. Visual Basic is one
¤ > of them. Also note that another is called Ruby.
¤
¤ Boy...  VBx...  Ruby...  <cntl><alt><del>
¤
¤ Vuja de!
¤
¤ So, two more verions after that, they *may* have something someone cares about? <g>

Deep down inside I knew there was still hope for you. ;-)


Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)

Paul Clement <UseAdddressAtEndofMess***@swspectrum.com> wrote:
Show quoteHide quoteMighty big assumption there...  Presupposes there's still hope for Microsoft! <g>

Ummm...dylsexic?



Rob

Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote:
Deja vu all over again.  ;-)

Hi,

This really is VB scripting added to other (managed, though) environments.
You could provide your users with this scripting language extension to
execute inside your conventional application (like VBS, but with VB .NET
syntax).

I find this to be "interesting, but not compelling."

Dick

vbx... LOL... Back to vb3? mmmmkay. Nothing like installing instant
obsolescence in a name, eh?

Ken Halter <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> wrote:
I was thinking they didn't want to use VB10 out of fear of truncation on that last
digit.

OMG. Good old Lunatic Paul's at it again, too.

If() is to replace IIF? Would someone please give me a break?... and, no, I
don't mean break my code, either.

http://www.panopticoncentral.net/

Since I routinely wrap comparisons in parens.... like

If (X = 1) Then

or

If (X = 1) And (Y = 2) Then

What's this new If() going to do with everyone's code? Lemme guess. A
migration wizard, right?.. or, no... the compiler searches for the comma and
decides, right? geez.

¤ > Next Version of VB Dubbed 'VBx'
¤ > Paul Vick dishes on Microsoft's reboot of Visual Basic.
¤ >
¤ > http://www.ftponline.com/channels/net/2007_05/ckanaracus/
¤ >
¤ > lol @ MS
¤
¤ OMG. Good old Lunatic Paul's at it again, too.
¤
¤ If() is to replace IIF? Would someone please give me a break?... and, no, I
¤ don't mean break my code, either.
¤
¤ http://www.panopticoncentral.net/
¤
¤ Since I routinely wrap comparisons in parens.... like
¤
¤ If (X = 1) Then
¤
¤ or
¤
¤ If (X = 1) And (Y = 2) Then
¤
¤ What's this new If() going to do with everyone's code? Lemme guess. A
¤ migration wizard, right?.. or, no... the compiler searches for the comma and
¤ decides, right? geez.

None of the above. It's a new ternary operator, not a direct replacement for the standard If
operator or the immediate If function.


Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)

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