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OT - MS: $4,000 for Daylight Saving FixMS: $4,000 for Daylight Saving Fix
By Nate Mook, BetaNews February 28, 2007, 2:06 PM Customers using Microsoft products that have entered their "Extended" support phase will need to fork over $4,000 for a patch that makes the software compatible with the new March 11 date for Daylight Saving Time (DST), according to Microsoft watcher Mary Jo Foley. Among the products affected that have left "Mainstream" support are Windows 2000, Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2000. Foley learned of the cost in a PowerPoint presentation distributed to analysts, which explains that due to the number of customers affected by the DST change, Microsoft will not be charging the standard, pricey fee to join its Extended Support Hotfix program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they need for a flat $4,000 USD fee. Because it's an opportunity for MS bashing, and I added the obligatory "OT".
Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) Show quoteHide quote "Robert Morley" <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote in message news:%23I%23hH$2WHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | And we care about this in a VB group because...? | | | Rob | | > Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one.Rob Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote:
>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this:> > Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx It's a pleasure... ;-) "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the royalty paymentnews:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl > Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >> >> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. > > Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: > > http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx > > It's a pleasure... ;-) gives me! -- Reply to the group so all can participate VB.Net: "Fool me once..." Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>)> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>> >>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >> >> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >> >> It's a pleasure... ;-) > > I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the royalty payment > gives me!
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"Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a lifetimenews:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl > Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>> >>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>> >>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>> >>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >> >> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the royalty >> payment gives me! > > Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) license! -- Reply to the group so all can participate VB.Net: "Fool me once..." Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Well. That's, ~obviously~, a "per use" license.> news:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>>> >>>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>>> >>>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>>> >>>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >>> >>> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the royalty >>> payment gives me! >> >> Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) > > No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a lifetime > license! If you feel that you could take better advantage of either our Enterprise or Universal Agreements, ...
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"Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Ah. Bite me.news:e2Cqs95WHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl > Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>>>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>>>> >>>>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>>>> >>>>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >>>> >>>> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the >>>> royalty payment gives me! >>> >>> Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) >> >> No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a >> lifetime license! > > Well. That's, ~obviously~, a "per use" license. > If you feel that you could take better advantage of either our I'm listening...> Enterprise or Universal Agreements, ... -- Reply to the group so all can participate VB.Net: "Fool me once..." Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message Pirate!> news:e2Cqs95WHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl >> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >>>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>>>>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >>>>> >>>>> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the >>>>> royalty payment gives me! >>>> >>>> Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) >>> >>> No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a >>> lifetime license! >> >> Well. That's, ~obviously~, a "per use" license. > > Ah. Bite me. >> If you feel that you could take better advantage of either our If you _have_ to ask...>> Enterprise or Universal Agreements, ... > > I'm listening... Karl E. Peterson wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: I'm sure I've seen "prior art" from Bob, but without some idea>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:e2Cqs95WHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl >>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>> news:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >>>>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>>>>>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>>>>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>>>>>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >>>>>> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the >>>>>> royalty payment gives me! >>>>> Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) >>>> No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a >>>> lifetime license! >>> Well. That's, ~obviously~, a "per use" license. >> Ah. Bite me. > > Pirate! > what date you're basing your claim on, it's hard to know if it should qualify. Google groups documents my own from >13.5 years ago, BTW. So if you were expecting any paypal quarters from me, you know what you can do. Bob ;-) Bob O`Bob <filter***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Karl E. Peterson wrote: <chuckle!>>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:e2Cqs95WHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl >>>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23sIyNj5WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >>>>>> Bob Butler <tiredofit@nospam.ever> wrote: >>>>>>> "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl >>>>>>>> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>>>>>>>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >>>>>>>> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a pleasure... ;-) >>>>>>> I clicked... but I ain't paying until I know what rights the >>>>>>> royalty payment gives me! >>>>>> Bite Me! (You expected no less, right? <g>) >>>>> No, I expected to find out if it was .25 per Bite Me or .25 for a >>>>> lifetime license! >>>> Well. That's, ~obviously~, a "per use" license. >>> Ah. Bite me. >> >> Pirate! > > I'm sure I've seen "prior art" from Bob, but without some idea > what date you're basing your claim on, it's hard to know if it > should qualify. > > Google groups documents my own from >13.5 years ago, BTW. > So if you were expecting any paypal quarters from me, > you know what you can do. > > > > Bob > ;-) I think we were operating on the preponderant usage patterns in effect. IOW, if you don't ardently strive to protect your trademarks... <g> > So if you were expecting any paypal quarters from me, I'm assuming that the phrase you were thinking of involved the word "shove" > you know what you can do. and putting that virtual quarter in an uncomfortable place. But if it's a virtual quarter, does that make it virtually uncomfortable? (As opposed to virtually painless.) Rob Okay, I clicked it. I didn't approve your $0.25 USD payment, but I *did*
click the link! :P Rob Show quoteHide quote "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >> >> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. > > Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: > > http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx > > It's a pleasure... ;-) > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote:
> Okay, I clicked it. I didn't approve your $0.25 USD payment, but I *did* It's a step in the right direction... <g>> click the link! :P Show quoteHide quote > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >>> >>> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. >> >> Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx >> >> It's a pleasure... ;-) >> -- >> .NET: It's About Trust! >> http://vfred.mvps.org Okay...I sent you $0.25. Don't spend it all in one place.
Yes, I *really* did. You're welcome. Show quoteHide quote "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: | >> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) | > | > Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. | | Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: | | http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx | | It's a pleasure... ;-) | -- | .NET: It's About Trust! | http://vfred.mvps.org | | Kevin Provance <ca***@tpasoft.com> wrote:
> Okay...I sent you $0.25. Don't spend it all in one place. LOL! Confirmed. :-)> > Yes, I *really* did. > > You're welcome. And, don't you just *feel* better, now? Feel free to issue additional "Bite Me!"'s at any opportune moment. Just don't forget... http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx I just don't know why I never thought of this before! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! :-D What's the policy if I use the term in a different language? Or masked with
asterisks? ;-) "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message "Bite Me!"'snews:%23i1PH25WHHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | Kevin Provance <ca***@tpasoft.com> wrote: | > Okay...I sent you $0.25. Don't spend it all in one place. | > | > Yes, I *really* did. | > | > You're welcome. | | LOL! Confirmed. :-) | | And, don't you just *feel* better, now? Feel free to issue additional Show quoteHide quote | at any opportune moment. Just don't forget... http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx | | I just don't know why I never thought of this before! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! :-D | -- | .NET: It's About Trust! | http://vfred.mvps.org | | Kevin Provance <ca***@tpasoft.com> wrote:
> What's the policy if I use the term in a different language? Or masked with There'd be a conversion fee, added, of course.> asterisks? ;-) Hahaha...I considered it as well, just for the silliness of it, but my
PayPal account is empty, and I think the credit cards charge you extra for small purchases (plus either PayPal or the credit card would've charged me for currency conversion as well). Rob Show quoteHide quote "Kevin Provance" <ca***@tpasoft.com> wrote in message news:OThuEq5WHHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Okay...I sent you $0.25. Don't spend it all in one place. > > Yes, I *really* did. > > You're welcome. > > "Karl E. Peterson" <k***@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: > | >> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) > | > > | > Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. > | > | Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: > | > | http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx > | > | It's a pleasure... ;-) > | -- > | .NET: It's About Trust! > | http://vfred.mvps.org > | > | > > Uhhh... does the license come with DRM?
I mean, if I start to spell out the copyrighted phrase outside of this newsgroup will my keyboard lock up or something? <g> Saga -- Show quoteHide quote"Karl E. Peterson" <karlNON@SPAMMEmvps.org> wrote in message news:ukF%23s54WHHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Robert Morley <rmor***@magma.ca.N0.Freak1n.sparn> wrote: >>> Now, bite me! ;-) (had to do it Karl, sorry!) >> >> Hahaha...okay, I'll give you points for that one. > > Okay, enough's enough. I expect *both* of you to click this: > > http://tinyurl.com/3bwrvx > > It's a pleasure... ;-) > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://vfred.mvps.org > Saga <antiSpam@somewhere.com> wrote:
> Uhhh... does the license come with DRM? If we revealed the means of our interrogation, the terrorists would be able to find > > I mean, if I start to spell out the copyrighted phrase outside of this > newsgroup will my keyboard lock up or something? > > <g> ways to avoid providing the needed information... Saga wrote:
> Uhhh... does the license come with DRM? isn't that built into Vista?> > I mean, if I start to spell out the copyrighted phrase outside of this > newsgroup will my keyboard lock up or something? Bob -- > Microsoft will not be charging the standard, pricey fee Wow! Isn't Microsoft just all heart. <g>> to join its Extended Support Hotfix program. Instead, > customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they > need for a flat $4,000 USD fee. Rick
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> MS: $4,000 for Daylight Saving Fix We actually figured out the Win98 fix for that> By Nate Mook, BetaNews > February 28, 2007, 2:06 PM > Customers using Microsoft products that have entered their "Extended" > support phase will need to fork over $4,000 for a patch that makes the > software compatible with the new March 11 date for Daylight Saving Time > (DST), according to Microsoft watcher Mary Jo Foley. > > Among the products affected that have left "Mainstream" support are Windows > 2000, Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2000. Foley learned of the cost in a > PowerPoint presentation distributed to analysts, which explains that due to > the number of customers affected by the DST change, Microsoft will not be > charging the standard, pricey fee to join its Extended Support Hotfix > program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they need > for a flat $4,000 USD fee. > over on the vbscript group. It involves a minor registry edit. I'm happy to sell the complete solution for a mere $3,999.99 (plus shipping and handling). mayayana <mayayan***@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they need OTOH, "Free is a *very* good price...!">> for a flat $4,000 USD fee. >> > We actually figured out the Win98 fix for that > over on the vbscript group. It involves a minor > registry edit. I'm happy to sell the complete > solution for a mere $3,999.99 (plus shipping > and handling). IntelliAdmin.com: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/01/unofficial-windows-2000-daylight.html
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>>> program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they Poor mayayana, he had visions of retiring rich and you just blew them out of >>> need >>> for a flat $4,000 USD fee. >>> >> We actually figured out the Win98 fix for that >> over on the vbscript group. It involves a minor >> registry edit. I'm happy to sell the complete >> solution for a mere $3,999.99 (plus shipping >> and handling). > > OTOH, "Free is a *very* good price...!" > > IntelliAdmin.com: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch > http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/01/unofficial-windows-2000-daylight.html the water.<g> Rick Rick Rothstein (MVP - VB) <rickNOSPAMnews@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >>>> program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they Well, there's *still* a few folks wandering the planet that haven't figured out >>>> need >>>> for a flat $4,000 USD fee. >>>> >>> We actually figured out the Win98 fix for that >>> over on the vbscript group. It involves a minor >>> registry edit. I'm happy to sell the complete >>> solution for a mere $3,999.99 (plus shipping >>> and handling). >> >> OTOH, "Free is a *very* good price...!" >> >> IntelliAdmin.com: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch >> http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/2007/01/unofficial-windows-2000-daylight.html > > Poor mayayana, he had visions of retiring rich and you just blew them out of > the water.<g> Google... > > OTOH, "Free is a *very* good price...!"
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> > > > IntelliAdmin.com: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch > > ml > Yes. This software business is just too unpredictable. :)> Poor mayayana, he had visions of retiring rich and you just blew them out of > the water.<g> >
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"Rick Rothstein (MVP - VB)" <rickNOSPAMnews@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in
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message news:uSt99l3WHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> program. Instead, customers can simply purchase the DST hotfixes they > >>> need > >>> for a flat $4,000 USD fee. > >>> > >> We actually figured out the Win98 fix for that > >> over on the vbscript group. It involves a minor > >> registry edit. I'm happy to sell the complete > >> solution for a mere $3,999.99 (plus shipping > >> and handling). > > > > OTOH, "Free is a *very* good price...!" > > > > IntelliAdmin.com: Unofficial Windows 2000 Daylight Saving Time Patch > > ml > Direct link to the NT/2000/XP/2003 DST Fix:> Poor mayayana, he had visions of retiring rich and you just blew them out of > the water.<g> > > Rick http://www.intelliadmin.com/DaylightSavingFix.exe And the one that'll make mayayana weep as dreams of a beachfront mansion abscond... the Win98/ME DST fix: http://www.intelliadmin.com/DaylightSavingFix98.exe 
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