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Can I embed an IE control in a webpage?about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here are my questions... Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like to be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers into a webpage. Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or register the component? I wouldn't think so. Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser control in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody know of any code showing such lunacy? Thanks for your help! jim jim wrote:
Show quote > OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just thinking What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding the > about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em where to embed > their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here are my questions... > > Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like to > be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers into a > webpage. > > Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or > register the component? I wouldn't think so. > > Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? > > I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser control > in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody know of any > code showing such lunacy? > > Thanks for your help! > > jim > > activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and loading the activex control in it?
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"Michael Robinson" <m**@mkronline.com> wrote in message The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a news:696ab$46ea9ab6$438cc35d$11332@ALLTEL.NET... > jim wrote: >> OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just >> thinking about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em >> where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here >> are my questions... >> >> Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like >> to be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers >> into a webpage. >> >> Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or >> register the component? I wouldn't think so. >> >> Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? >> >> I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser >> control in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody >> know of any code showing such lunacy? >> >> Thanks for your help! >> >> jim >> >> > > What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding the > activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and loading > the activex control in it? webbrowser control on it. As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I have been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use an activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what I have been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for this web page is to tie together form and webform programming and move on to other activeX controls in later lessons. The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to host one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first thing that fell from his crumbling grey mass. I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning project for me. (Lucky me.) Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class id? I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also assume that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version at this time, and would probably be the one to us. Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a div or adding/removing activex controls dynamically? A dynamically created, DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail of code samples for this project. I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. Thanks so much for your help. jim jim wrote:
Show quote >> What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding the In other words, there is no real goal at all. You are just doing it >> activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and loading >> the activex control in it? > > The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a > webbrowser control on it. > > As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I have > been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use an > activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what I have > been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for this web page > is to tie together form and webform programming and move on to other activeX > controls in later lessons. > > The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior > management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their > microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to host > one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first thing > that fell from his crumbling grey mass. because someone thought that it should be cool. I can't help to think that it would be confusing to use a webbrowser control as an example. Web programming is complicated enough, without having a browser in the browser. I really think that you should suggest to use a different control as an example. A control that has even the slightest possibility to actually be useful in a web page. Show quote > I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning That's because they aren't. I have never ever even heard of anyone > project for me. (Lucky me.) > > Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to > need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class id? > I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also assume > that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version at this > time, and would probably be the one to us. > > Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a div > or adding/removing activex controls dynamically?> A dynamically created, > DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail of code > samples for this project. > > I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a > webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. wanting to do this, as it's entirely pointless.
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"Göran Andersson" <gu***@guffa.com> wrote in message I *so* agree with you. I suggested a date picker control. It is useful in news:%23ywl8i49HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > jim wrote: >>> What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding the >>> activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and >>> loading the activex control in it? >> >> The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a >> webbrowser control on it. >> >> As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I >> have been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use >> an activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what >> I have been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for >> this web page is to tie together form and webform programming and move on >> to other activeX controls in later lessons. >> >> The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior >> management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their >> microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to >> host one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first >> thing that fell from his crumbling grey mass. > > In other words, there is no real goal at all. You are just doing it > because someone thought that it should be cool. > > I can't help to think that it would be confusing to use a webbrowser > control as an example. Web programming is complicated enough, without > having a browser in the browser. > > I really think that you should suggest to use a different control as an > example. A control that has even the slightest possibility to actually be > useful in a web page. both places, consumes less resources and is less confusing than this puzzle wrapped in an enigma of a webpage that some (I hope) drunken manager scribbled onto a bar napkin. Show quote > The only point here that I can see is keeping my job. Doing this is like >> I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning >> project for me. (Lucky me.) >> >> Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to >> need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class >> id? I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also >> assume that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version >> at this time, and would probably be the one to us. >> >> Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a >> div or adding/removing activex controls dynamically?> A dynamically >> created, DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail >> of code samples for this project. >> >> I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a >> webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. > > That's because they aren't. I have never ever even heard of anyone wanting > to do this, as it's entirely pointless. placing a calendar control inside another calendar control. Maybe you could do it, but why would you? Sometimes I think that people just get drunk with power and the "do it because I say so" rule goes into effect. That seems to be the case here. jim
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On Sep 14, 7:47 pm, "jim" <j***@home.net> wrote: Could you fake it? Would they know if you did?> "Michael Robinson" <m***@mkronline.com> wrote in message > > news:696ab$46ea9ab6$438cc35d$11332@ALLTEL.NET... > > > > > > > jim wrote: > >> OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just > >> thinking about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em > >> where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here > >> are my questions... > > >> Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like > >> to be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers > >> into a webpage. > > >> Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or > >> register the component? I wouldn't think so. > > >> Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? > > >> I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser > >> control in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody > >> know of any code showing such lunacy? > > >> Thanks for your help! > > >> jim > > > What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding the > > activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and loading > > the activex control in it? > > The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a > webbrowser control on it. I mean, you could take static images of IE, arrange them on a table, have a text box "URL" input, and retrieve a web page... Are they dumb enough to fall for it?
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"Larry Bud" <larrybud2***@yahoo.com> wrote in message They're dumb alright, but maybe not that dumb. I won't know what URL they news:1190207083.015572.29280@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 14, 7:47 pm, "jim" <j***@home.net> wrote: >> "Michael Robinson" <m***@mkronline.com> wrote in message >> >> news:696ab$46ea9ab6$438cc35d$11332@ALLTEL.NET... >> >> >> >> >> >> > jim wrote: >> >> OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just >> >> thinking about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em >> >> where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, >> >> here >> >> are my questions... >> >> >> Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would >> >> like >> >> to be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based >> >> browsers >> >> into a webpage. >> >> >> Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or >> >> register the component? I wouldn't think so. >> >> >> Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? >> >> >> I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser >> >> control in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody >> >> know of any code showing such lunacy? >> >> >> Thanks for your help! >> >> >> jim >> >> > What is the goal? Wouldn't you get the same effect by just embedding >> > the >> > activex control directly rather than embedding the IE control and >> > loading >> > the activex control in it? >> >> The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a >> webbrowser control on it. > > Could you fake it? Would they know if you did? > > I mean, you could take static images of IE, arrange them on a table, > have a text box "URL" input, and retrieve a web page... Are they dumb > enough to fall for it? may type in to test the webpage. jim yes, though the users may be warned about running an active/x control.
you can get the same effect with an iframe (which is really a seperate ie instance and has most of the same events). you can put an iframe or active/x control in a div, but they will not resize on their own. you will need client script to size them. -- bruce (sqlwork.com) jim wrote: Show quote > OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just thinking > about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em where to embed > their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here are my questions... > > Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like to > be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers into a > webpage. > > Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or > register the component? I wouldn't think so. > > Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? > > I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser control > in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody know of any > code showing such lunacy? > > Thanks for your help! > > jim > > "bruce barker" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message Even though it it already loaded and registered on their PC?news:OjWPGNu9HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > yes, though the users may be warned about running an active/x control. > I think one of the goals of this project is to show the use of the > you can get the same effect with an iframe (which is really a seperate ie > instance and has most of the same events). webbrowser control on a form and a web page and to show how the control can be used exactly the same on both (with the same events, functions, etc.). > you can put an iframe or active/x control in a div, but they will not Got it. Got any cool DIV resize code that I could learn from?> resize on their own. you will need client script to size them. Show quote > > -- bruce (sqlwork.com) > > jim wrote: >> OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just >> thinking about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em >> where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here >> are my questions... >> >> Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like >> to be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers >> into a webpage. >> >> Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or >> register the component? I wouldn't think so. >> >> Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? >> >> I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser >> control in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody >> know of any code showing such lunacy? >> >> Thanks for your help! >> >> jim >> Even though you said "Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad".
I'm curious on why in the world would you want the IE control embedded in a web page? Show quote "jim" <j**@home.net> wrote in message news:oXvGi.65990$Lu.63748@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > OK...Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad. It makes me mad just > thinking about it. I swear....if I didn't need this job, I'd tell 'em > where to embed their webbrowser control. But, since I do need it, here > are my questions... > > Can I embed an IE activex control in a webpage? I basically would like to > be able to embed the same component used to create IE-based browsers into > a webpage. > > Since IE is already on Windows PCs already, would they have to load or > register the component? I wouldn't think so. > > Can I put it in a DIV that will resize with the page? > > I Googled for an example of doing this (embedding an IE webbrowser control > in a freakin' webpage), but have come up dry so far. Anybody know of any > code showing such lunacy? > > Thanks for your help! > > jim > > "Mike" <Mike@community.nospam.com> wrote in message The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a news:OuWniHv9HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Even though you said "Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad". > > I'm curious on why in the world would you want the IE control embedded in > a web page? webbrowser control on it. As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I have been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use an activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what I have been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for this web page is to tie together form and webform programming and move on to other activeX controls in later lessons. The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to host one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first thing that fell from his crumbling grey mass. I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning project for me. (Lucky me.) Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class id? I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also assume that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version at this time, and would probably be the one to us. Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a div or adding/removing activex controls dynamically? A dynamically created, DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail of code samples for this project. I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. Thanks so much for your help. jim
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On 15 Sep, 00:52, "jim" <j***@home.net> wrote: Hi Jim> "Mike" <M...@community.nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:OuWniHv9HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > Even though you said "Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad". > > > I'm curious on why in the world would you want the IE control embedded in > > a web page? > > The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a > webbrowser control on it. > > As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I have > been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use an > activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what I have > been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for this web page > is to tie together form and webform programming and move on to other activeX > controls in later lessons. > > The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior > management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their > microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to host > one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first thing > that fell from his crumbling grey mass. > > I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning > project for me. (Lucky me.) > > Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to > need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class id? > I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also assume > that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version at this > time, and would probably be the one to us. > > Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a div > or adding/removing activex controls dynamically? A dynamically created, > DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail of code > samples for this project. > > I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a > webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. > > Thanks so much for your help. > > jim You have my sympathies if you are being driven by a boss who asks the impossible because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. The best approach is to go back and agree what the actual (broader) objective is and allow you to find the best solution. I think you need to make it clear what the difference is between client-side and server-side technology. ASP.NET uses Java-script to create intelligent client-side behaviour to avoid round-trips (e.g. validation controls) but it is not equipped to go much beyond that. Active-X control simulation is not in its porfolio. Unless of course anyone knows any different, but I doubt it.
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"Phil H" <goo***@philphall.me.uk> wrote in message Thanks for the sound advice. Unfortunately sound advice is only useful when news:1189895190.422166.205140@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On 15 Sep, 00:52, "jim" <j***@home.net> wrote: >> "Mike" <M...@community.nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OuWniHv9HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> > Even though you said "Don't ask why - it'll just make ya mad". >> >> > I'm curious on why in the world would you want the IE control embedded >> > in >> > a web page? >> >> The goal (as crazy as it sounds) is actually to have a web page with a >> webbrowser control on it. >> >> As far as I can tell (with the horrifically vague set of user specs I >> have >> been given) the goal of the webpage is to teach veiwers how to use an >> activex control in a webpage using the webbrowser control. From what I >> have >> been able to glean from this jumble of specs, the end goal for this web >> page >> is to tie together form and webform programming and move on to other >> activeX >> controls in later lessons. >> >> The idea of using the webbrowser control was one thought up by senior >> management (who, of course, still can't program the time on their >> microwaves). Evidentally the "big boss" thought it would be "cool" to >> host >> one control inside another and the webbrowser control was the first thing >> that fell from his crumbling grey mass. >> >> I was assigned this task because they thought it would be a good learning >> project for me. (Lucky me.) >> >> Anyway....I have seen some controls hosted in web pages, and they seem to >> need some type of class id. Is there a place that I can get this class >> id? >> I assume it would be different for different versions of IE. I also >> assume >> that version 6 of IE would be the most widely distributed version at this >> time, and would probably be the one to us. >> >> Know of any code samples that would show hosting activex controls in a >> div >> or adding/removing activex controls dynamically? A dynamically created, >> DIV-encased, hosted webbrowser control would be the holy grail of code >> samples for this project. >> >> I am Googling my butt off, but have not found a single example of a >> webbrowser control being hosted in a web page. >> >> Thanks so much for your help. >> >> jim > > Hi Jim > > You have my sympathies if you are being driven by a boss who asks the > impossible because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. > > The best approach is to go back and agree what the actual (broader) > objective is and allow you to find the best solution. > > I think you need to make it clear what the difference is between > client-side and server-side technology. ASP.NET uses Java-script to > create intelligent client-side behaviour to avoid round-trips (e.g. > validation controls) but it is not equipped to go much beyond that. > Active-X control simulation is not in its porfolio. > > Unless of course anyone knows any different, but I doubt it. dealing with beings capable of logical thought. What *should* have happened was that management should have come up with a goal and left it to the project leaders and workers to accomplish the goal. Micromanagement like this will kill morale - and eventually the company. Still looking though..... jim Well, you could replicate the browsing process by using the
HttpWebRequest object in .NET. You could create a UI that resembles a browswer and then recreate the requests and responses. NOT FUN AT ALL, but you COULD do it. :) "Donn Felker" <dfel***@gmail.com> wrote in message I don't think it would act like a web page. From what I understand about news:1190159252.702151.49850@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > Well, you could replicate the browsing process by using the > HttpWebRequest object in .NET. You could create a UI that resembles a > browswer and then recreate the requests and responses. NOT FUN AT ALL, > but you COULD do it. :) the HttpWebRequest object, it only returns the HTML (like the Inet control used to in VB6). And, that wouldn't prove his point of using a webbrowser control inside another webbrowser control. These people will surf the webpage containing the control from within the control just to prove the concept. Well, they would - but they won't now because it just won't work. You can't use a webbrowser control inside a webpage. It simply won't work. At least that's what I'm telling him. jim  |
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