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What's the new thing after ActiveX?I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably driven to more and more security. What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on the client machine? Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) Thanks ThunderMusic WPF/E
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx Show quoteHide quote "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, > I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade > to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw > some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using > ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably > driven to more and more security. > > What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" > working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and > Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could > avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on the > client machine? > > Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on > everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would be > Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) > > Thanks > > ThunderMusic > great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it does
which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers on the site even with a quick look at the FAQ) thanks a lot ThunderMusic Show quoteHide quote "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message news:eVB5KkQOHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > WPF/E > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx > > "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message > news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade >> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw >> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using >> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably >> driven to more and more security. >> >> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >> the client machine? >> >> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >> >> Thanks >> >> ThunderMusic >> > > ok, I found it... it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade
soon... ;) thanks a lot ThunderMusic Show quoteHide quote "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message news:up0I2zQOHHA.4604@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it > does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers > on the site even with a quick look at the FAQ) > > thanks a lot > > ThunderMusic > > > "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in > message news:eVB5KkQOHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> WPF/E >> >> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx >> >> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message >> news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, >>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade >>> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw >>> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using >>> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably >>> driven to more and more security. >>> >>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >>> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >>> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >>> the client machine? >>> >>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >>> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >>> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> ThunderMusic >>> >> >> > > wpf/e is a browser plugin and which downloads a xml content file and
support javascript. ms has tools coming out that will help create these content files. you just need your users to install the plugin, and host the xml files and addition content files on you host. no new host software required. to develop an mpf/e application all you need is notepad. -- bruce (sqlwork.com) ThunderMusic wrote: Show quoteHide quote > ok, I found it... it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade > soon... ;) > > thanks a lot > > ThunderMusic > > > > "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message > news:up0I2zQOHHA.4604@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it >> does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers >> on the site even with a quick look at the FAQ) >> >> thanks a lot >> >> ThunderMusic >> >> >> "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in >> message news:eVB5KkQOHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> WPF/E >>> >>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx >>> >>> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message >>> news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, >>>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade >>>> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw >>>> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using >>>> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably >>>> driven to more and more security. >>>> >>>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >>>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >>>> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >>>> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >>>> the client machine? >>>> >>>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >>>> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >>>> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> ThunderMusic >>>> >>> >> > > I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script
(on the client) and it will work with different platforms. Now if that is not some neat news, not sure what is. -- Show quoteHide quoteWilliam Stacey [C# MVP] "bruce barker" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:u917rGROHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | wpf/e is a browser plugin and which downloads a xml content file and | support javascript. ms has tools coming out that will help create these | content files. | | you just need your users to install the plugin, and host the xml files | and addition content files on you host. no new host software required. | | to develop an mpf/e application all you need is notepad. | | | -- bruce (sqlwork.com) | | ThunderMusic wrote: | > ok, I found it... it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade | > soon... ;) | > | > thanks a lot | > | > ThunderMusic | > | > | > | > "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message | > news:up0I2zQOHHA.4604@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | >> great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it | >> does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers | >> on the site even with a quick look at the FAQ) | >> | >> thanks a lot | >> | >> ThunderMusic | >> | >> | >> "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in | >> message news:eVB5KkQOHHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | >>> WPF/E | >>> | >>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx | >>> | >>> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message | >>> news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | >>>> Hi, | >>>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade | >>>> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw | >>>> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using | >>>> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably | >>>> driven to more and more security. | >>>> | >>>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" | >>>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and | >>>> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could | >>>> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on | >>>> the client machine? | >>>> | >>>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on | >>>> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would | >>>> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) | >>>> | >>>> Thanks | >>>> | >>>> ThunderMusic | >>>> | >>> | >> | > | > Hi,
William Stacey [C# MVP] wrote: > I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script That's correct. The current WPF/E version is a (first) CTP, which > (on the client) and it will work with different platforms. Now if that is > not some neat news, not sure what is. supports only JavaScript "code-behind". However it's quite neat already, because the XAML DOM is fully accessible to the script, so you can actually change it on the client. Currently, WPF/E plug-in is available for IE, Firefox, Safari (yes, that's Mac). Normally, a Linux version should be in preparation. In the V1 (which is announced for MIX07, end of April), you will also be able to write C# code-behind. A subset of the framework only will be supported, but it's not clear yet which functionalities will be removed. HTH, Laurent -- Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET] Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch/pictures Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that?
right? I've read on the site the 3D support can be expected soon... Will it use XNA, OpenGL or some other type of API? thanks ThunderMusic Show quoteHide quote "Laurent Bugnion [MVP]" <galasoft***@bluewin.ch> wrote in message news:uA6cgAUOHHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > William Stacey [C# MVP] wrote: >> I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as >> script (on the client) and it will work with different platforms. Now if >> that is not some neat news, not sure what is. > > That's correct. The current WPF/E version is a (first) CTP, which supports > only JavaScript "code-behind". However it's quite neat already, because > the XAML DOM is fully accessible to the script, so you can actually change > it on the client. > > Currently, WPF/E plug-in is available for IE, Firefox, Safari (yes, that's > Mac). Normally, a Linux version should be in preparation. > > In the V1 (which is announced for MIX07, end of April), you will also be > able to write C# code-behind. A subset of the framework only will be > supported, but it's not clear yet which functionalities will be removed. > > HTH, > Laurent > -- > Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET] > Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch > PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch/pictures > Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch Hi,
ThunderMusic wrote: > ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that? WPF (not E) currently uses DirectX 10 for 3D. It is optimized for Vista, > right? > > I've read on the site the 3D support can be expected soon... Will it use > XNA, OpenGL or some other type of API? > > thanks and relies on hardware acceleration (on cards supporting it) for smoother animations. What WPF/E will (would) use for 3D is not clear yet. Note that using JavaScript matrix transformations, some 3D effects can be done already in WPF/E, and are surprisingly smooth. For more info, see this video: http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=263358 (JavaScript 3D animations after 19:30) For more info about 3D in general (and probably about 3D in WPF/E too), try talking to Daniel Lehenbauer. http://blogs.msdn.com/danlehen/default.aspx Greetings, Laurent -- Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET] Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch/pictures Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch You could use an embedded windows forms control.
Here are the details: http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx Show quoteHide quote "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, > I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade > to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw > some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using > ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably > driven to more and more security. > > What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" > working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and > Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could > avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on the > client machine? > > Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on > everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would be > Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) > > Thanks > > ThunderMusic > is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too?
thanks ThunderMusic Show quoteHide quote "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in message news:7569C198-6245-4626-ACAF-E872C0B9287B@microsoft.com... > You could use an embedded windows forms control. > Here are the details: > http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx > > -- > I hope this helps, > Steve C. Orr, > MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider > http://SteveOrr.net > > > "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message > news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade >> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw >> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using >> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably >> driven to more and more security. >> >> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >> the client machine? >> >> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >> >> Thanks >> >> ThunderMusic >> > It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework
installed. Show quoteHide quote "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message news:uxQXx5vPHHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too? > > thanks > > ThunderMusic > > "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in > message news:7569C198-6245-4626-ACAF-E872C0B9287B@microsoft.com... >> You could use an embedded windows forms control. >> Here are the details: >> http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx >> >> -- >> I hope this helps, >> Steve C. Orr, >> MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider >> http://SteveOrr.net >> >> >> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message >> news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, >>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade >>> to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw >>> some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using >>> ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably >>> driven to more and more security. >>> >>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >>> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >>> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >>> the client machine? >>> >>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >>> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >>> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> ThunderMusic >>> >> > > Wasn't ActiveX also limited to windows too though?
Show quoteHide quote "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in message news:C853C6DE-375A-4A35-A659-CEB4647003F1@microsoft.com... > It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework > installed. > > -- > I hope this helps, > Steve C. Orr, > MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider > http://SteveOrr.net > > > "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message > news:uxQXx5vPHHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too? >> >> thanks >> >> ThunderMusic >> >> "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in >> message news:7569C198-6245-4626-ACAF-E872C0B9287B@microsoft.com... >>> You could use an embedded windows forms control. >>> Here are the details: >>> http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx >>> >>> -- >>> I hope this helps, >>> Steve C. Orr, >>> MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider >>> http://SteveOrr.net >>> >>> >>> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message >>> news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, >>>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can >>>> upgrade to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able >>>> to draw some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it >>>> using ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, >>>> probably driven to more and more security. >>>> >>>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >>>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and >>>> Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could >>>> avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on >>>> the client machine? >>>> >>>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on >>>> everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would >>>> be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> ThunderMusic >>>> >>> >> >> > There are plug-ins for other browsers.
You don't need to post this to every newsgroup you can find btw. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Alvin Bruney ------------------------------------------------------ Shameless author plug Excel Services for .NET is coming... OWC Black book on Amazon and www.lulu.com/owc "Ralph" <ralph***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45c4d09c$0$1413$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Wasn't ActiveX also limited to windows too though? > "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in > message news:C853C6DE-375A-4A35-A659-CEB4647003F1@microsoft.com... >> It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework >> installed. >> >> -- >> I hope this helps, >> Steve C. Orr, >> MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider >> http://SteveOrr.net >> >> >> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in message >> news:uxQXx5vPHHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> ThunderMusic >>> >>> "Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in >>> message news:7569C198-6245-4626-ACAF-E872C0B9287B@microsoft.com... >>>> You could use an embedded windows forms control. >>>> Here are the details: >>>> http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I hope this helps, >>>> Steve C. Orr, >>>> MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASPInsider >>>> http://SteveOrr.net >>>> >>>> >>>> "ThunderMusic" <NoSpAmdanlatathotmaildotcom@NoSpAm.com> wrote in >>>> message news:O0wPXaQOHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can >>>>> upgrade to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able >>>>> to draw some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it >>>>> using ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, >>>>> probably driven to more and more security. >>>>> >>>>> What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" >>>>> working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox >>>>> and Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I >>>>> could avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be >>>>> required on the client machine? >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work >>>>> on everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum >>>>> would be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> ThunderMusic >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > 
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