"Griff" <Howl***@The.Moon> wrote in message
news:On129pC8FHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Not sure that the subject adequately defines my question, but here goes.
>
> I have a CLASSIC asp web site that contains FRAMES.  In my left-hand frame
> I have a navigational menu.  What navigation items are displayed depend
> upon the identity of the user using the system (they have to log on
> first).  So, some users have a reduced functionality set.  The navigation
> takes a wee while to load, but it only has to load the once because it's
> in a frame set. Clicking on menu items loads a completely new page in the
> right hand part of the frame - all normal stuff I'm sure.
>
> Some of our customers have UI requirements that mean that we've got the
> scrap the frame-set and we're going to re-write the application using ASP
> (most likely in VS2005 using ASP2.0).
>
> I like what I've read about master pages (some customers want a left hand
> side menu, others want a horizontal menu) and I see that I can create two
> master pages to accommodate this.
>
> What I'm not sure about is this:
>
> Having authenticated oneself, a "launch" page will load.  This will
> inherit the master page and load the relevant menu for that user (after
> having spent a little while identifying what menu items they are allowed
> to see).
>
> From the "launch" page, they click a menu item called "catalogue" and this
> loads up "catalogue.aspx" which inherits the same master page.  What I'd
> really like it to do would be to simply re-display the SAME menu, rather
> than re-identify what menu items the user has access to.
>
> Is that possible, or would the navigation menu have to re-populate from
> scratch.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Griff
>

"S.M. Altaf [MVP]" wrote:

> Yes it's possible, but the implementation would be quite crude.  Why do you
> not want to re-identify the user's menu items on each load?  I'm sure it's
> not that big a database call, and besides, what if the user's userlevel
> changes while he's logged on?
>
> One crude implementation I can think of is to load the list of link+URL
> values into an arraylist and store that in a session variable so that the
> menu control can simply reload from those values instead of calling the
> database.
>
> HTH
> Altaf
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All that glitters has a high refractive index.
> www.mendhak.com
>
>
> "Griff" <Howl***@The.Moon> wrote in message
> news:On129pC8FHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Not sure that the subject adequately defines my question, but here goes.
> >
> > I have a CLASSIC asp web site that contains FRAMES.  In my left-hand frame
> > I have a navigational menu.  What navigation items are displayed depend
> > upon the identity of the user using the system (they have to log on
> > first).  So, some users have a reduced functionality set.  The navigation
> > takes a wee while to load, but it only has to load the once because it's
> > in a frame set. Clicking on menu items loads a completely new page in the
> > right hand part of the frame - all normal stuff I'm sure.
> >
> > Some of our customers have UI requirements that mean that we've got the
> > scrap the frame-set and we're going to re-write the application using ASP
> > (most likely in VS2005 using ASP2.0).
> >
> > I like what I've read about master pages (some customers want a left hand
> > side menu, others want a horizontal menu) and I see that I can create two
> > master pages to accommodate this.
> >
> > What I'm not sure about is this:
> >
> > Having authenticated oneself, a "launch" page will load.  This will
> > inherit the master page and load the relevant menu for that user (after
> > having spent a little while identifying what menu items they are allowed
> > to see).
> >
> > From the "launch" page, they click a menu item called "catalogue" and this
> > loads up "catalogue.aspx" which inherits the same master page.  What I'd
> > really like it to do would be to simply re-display the SAME menu, rather
> > than re-identify what menu items the user has access to.
> >
> > Is that possible, or would the navigation menu have to re-populate from
> > scratch.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Griff
> >
>
>
>

"Devone" <Dev***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:28D088E5-0949-4D43-80D6-D442E5818B1B@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
>   This scenario sounds like the perfect option to use the new data aware
> caching mechanisms built into ASP.Net 2.0 . . . This method allows you to
> setup your database so that it triggers the cache control mechanism of
> ASP.Net and invalidates the cache when your database tables change (based
> on
> the table(s) you configure the system to watch).  With MS SQL 7.0 and
> 2000,
> ASP.Net will poll the database for changes (based on your poll interval)
> and
> with MS SQL 2005, the database will actively alert the cache control
> mechanism using HTTP (port 80).  It is a great solution for database
> driven
> menuing systems.  One more thing, the cache can also be parameter
> dependent
> so it will work based on the logon name/ID, etc.  The following links
> provide
> some good detailed info . . .
>
> http://www.15seconds.com/issue/040518.htm
>
> http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/01/17/sqlcachedependency.html
>
> Hope this helps . . .
>
>
>
> "S.M. Altaf [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Yes it's possible, but the implementation would be quite crude.  Why do
>> you
>> not want to re-identify the user's menu items on each load?  I'm sure
>> it's
>> not that big a database call, and besides, what if the user's userlevel
>> changes while he's logged on?
>>
>> One crude implementation I can think of is to load the list of link+URL
>> values into an arraylist and store that in a session variable so that the
>> menu control can simply reload from those values instead of calling the
>> database.
>>
>> HTH
>> Altaf
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All that glitters has a high refractive index.
>> www.mendhak.com
>>
>>
>> "Griff" <Howl***@The.Moon> wrote in message
>> news:On129pC8FHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Not sure that the subject adequately defines my question, but here
>> > goes.
>> >
>> > I have a CLASSIC asp web site that contains FRAMES.  In my left-hand
>> > frame
>> > I have a navigational menu.  What navigation items are displayed depend
>> > upon the identity of the user using the system (they have to log on
>> > first).  So, some users have a reduced functionality set.  The
>> > navigation
>> > takes a wee while to load, but it only has to load the once because
>> > it's
>> > in a frame set. Clicking on menu items loads a completely new page in
>> > the
>> > right hand part of the frame - all normal stuff I'm sure.
>> >
>> > Some of our customers have UI requirements that mean that we've got the
>> > scrap the frame-set and we're going to re-write the application using
>> > ASP
>> > (most likely in VS2005 using ASP2.0).
>> >
>> > I like what I've read about master pages (some customers want a left
>> > hand
>> > side menu, others want a horizontal menu) and I see that I can create
>> > two
>> > master pages to accommodate this.
>> >
>> > What I'm not sure about is this:
>> >
>> > Having authenticated oneself, a "launch" page will load.  This will
>> > inherit the master page and load the relevant menu for that user (after
>> > having spent a little while identifying what menu items they are
>> > allowed
>> > to see).
>> >
>> > From the "launch" page, they click a menu item called "catalogue" and
>> > this
>> > loads up "catalogue.aspx" which inherits the same master page.  What
>> > I'd
>> > really like it to do would be to simply re-display the SAME menu,
>> > rather
>> > than re-identify what menu items the user has access to.
>> >
>> > Is that possible, or would the navigation menu have to re-populate from
>> > scratch.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Griff
>> >
>>
>>
>>