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Author
10 Jul 2005 4:15 PM
Charts
I am using webcontrol treeview on the left and datagrid on the right of the
html table to simulate windows treeview and listview panes in asp.net.  The
problem is that I cannot have pane separator as we have in the windows, I
cannot resize areas for the treeview and datagrid as we can for treeview pane
and listview pane.  Are there any controls and techniques in asp.net to allow
me to simulate resizable separator of window panes?
Thanks,
Charts

Author
11 Jul 2005 6:24 AM
Steven Cheng[MSFT]
Hi Charts,

Welcome to ASP.NET newsgroup.
As for the implement the winform pane separator like functions in ASP.NET
webform page,  here are some of my understanding and suggestions:

In asp.net webpage(or any other dynamic web document techs), all the
response content (be displayed in browser ) are html content. And the html
display modal (in browser) has different mechanism with the ones in winform
application.
So we haven't the absolute same controls like the separator control in
winform control collection.

In fact, in web page, we generally use the frames/frameset based pages to
provide the effect like the separated panes in winform. We need to provide
a parent page which contains some frameset and in each sub frame, there
contains a separate page inside it. And we can make the border which
separate the neighbour pages sizeable so that we can drag them in the
browser to resize the neighboured frames.  And for a visual reference, you
can look at the

msdn web site:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/library 

which just use the frameset/frame based page to display the top/left/main
content sections.

How do you think of this?

Please feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or ideas.
Thanks,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

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| I am using webcontrol treeview on the left and datagrid on the right of
the
| html table to simulate windows treeview and listview panes in asp.net. 
The
| problem is that I cannot have pane separator as we have in the windows, I
| cannot resize areas for the treeview and datagrid as we can for treeview
pane
| and listview pane.  Are there any controls and techniques in asp.net to
allow
| me to simulate resizable separator of window panes?
| Thanks,
| Charts
|
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Author
11 Jul 2005 12:54 PM
Charts
That is a good suggestion.  Thanks Steven.  Charts

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"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Charts,
>
> Welcome to ASP.NET newsgroup.
> As for the implement the winform pane separator like functions in ASP.NET
> webform page,  here are some of my understanding and suggestions:
>
>  In asp.net webpage(or any other dynamic web document techs), all the
> response content (be displayed in browser ) are html content. And the html
> display modal (in browser) has different mechanism with the ones in winform
> application.
> So we haven't the absolute same controls like the separator control in
> winform control collection.
>
> In fact, in web page, we generally use the frames/frameset based pages to
> provide the effect like the separated panes in winform. We need to provide
> a parent page which contains some frameset and in each sub frame, there
> contains a separate page inside it. And we can make the border which
> separate the neighbour pages sizeable so that we can drag them in the
> browser to resize the neighboured frames.  And for a visual reference, you
> can look at the
>
> msdn web site:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/library 
>
> which just use the frameset/frame based page to display the top/left/main
> content sections.
>
> How do you think of this?
>
> Please feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or ideas.
> Thanks,
>
> Steven Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.)
>
>
>
>
>
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> | I am using webcontrol treeview on the left and datagrid on the right of
> the
> | html table to simulate windows treeview and listview panes in asp.net. 
> The
> | problem is that I cannot have pane separator as we have in the windows, I
> | cannot resize areas for the treeview and datagrid as we can for treeview
> pane
> | and listview pane.  Are there any controls and techniques in asp.net to
> allow
> | me to simulate resizable separator of window panes?
> | Thanks,
> | Charts
> |
> |
>
>
Author
11 Jul 2005 3:50 PM
Charts
Hi Steven,
I tried frameset/frame solution. However the problem is that the framset
separates different pages. For example, if I take the event of node click in
the treeview in the left of the frame, then I would not be able to get hold
of the datagrid controls in the right frame since they are in the different
pages. How can I resolve this problem?
Thanks,
Charts


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"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi Charts,
>
> Welcome to ASP.NET newsgroup.
> As for the implement the winform pane separator like functions in ASP.NET
> webform page,  here are some of my understanding and suggestions:
>
>  In asp.net webpage(or any other dynamic web document techs), all the
> response content (be displayed in browser ) are html content. And the html
> display modal (in browser) has different mechanism with the ones in winform
> application.
> So we haven't the absolute same controls like the separator control in
> winform control collection.
>
> In fact, in web page, we generally use the frames/frameset based pages to
> provide the effect like the separated panes in winform. We need to provide
> a parent page which contains some frameset and in each sub frame, there
> contains a separate page inside it. And we can make the border which
> separate the neighbour pages sizeable so that we can drag them in the
> browser to resize the neighboured frames.  And for a visual reference, you
> can look at the
>
> msdn web site:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/library 
>
> which just use the frameset/frame based page to display the top/left/main
> content sections.
>
> How do you think of this?
>
> Please feel free to let me know if you have any other questions or ideas.
> Thanks,
>
> Steven Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.)
>
>
>
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> | I am using webcontrol treeview on the left and datagrid on the right of
> the
> | html table to simulate windows treeview and listview panes in asp.net. 
> The
> | problem is that I cannot have pane separator as we have in the windows, I
> | cannot resize areas for the treeview and datagrid as we can for treeview
> pane
> | and listview pane.  Are there any controls and techniques in asp.net to
> allow
> | me to simulate resizable separator of window panes?
> | Thanks,
> | Charts
> |
> |
>
>
Author
11 Jul 2005 8:51 PM
Aaron Corcoran
Charts,

I believe that the following Web Control may be right up your alley!

http://www.obout.com/splitter/

Aaron
Author
11 Jul 2005 9:09 PM
Charts
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"Aaron Corcoran" wrote:

> Charts,
>
> I believe that the following Web Control may be right up your alley!
>
> http://www.obout.com/splitter/
>
> Aaron
>
>
Author
13 Jul 2005 1:12 AM
Steven Cheng[MSFT]
Thanks for Aaron's informative info.

Hi Charts,

Seems the splitter control on the site Aaron mentioned use the DHTML events
to perform the sizable function. I haven't dig deep into it , but surely
it's a good approach. In addition, as for using frameset/frame based page,
though it force us to separate the entire content into individual pages, we
can still use the DHTML model to access the elements or fucntions across
the frames(by clientside scripting). If you're also interested in this, we
can also try looing further into it.

Thanks,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
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| "Aaron Corcoran" wrote:
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| > Charts,
| >
| > I believe that the following Web Control may be right up your alley!
| >
| > http://www.obout.com/splitter/
| >
| > Aaron
| >
| >
|
Author
13 Jul 2005 2:35 PM
clintonG
The guy from obout - Illya something or the other - who developed and sells
those controls is not trustworthy. He claims he supports his controls but he
does not and will not answer mail after he has your money. I learned this
the hard way and fell for his bullsh!t because his site looks so good but
the guy is dishonest.

So you better be a mind reader if you intend to use those controls because
there is a lot left unsaid about how they can be used.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
         METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
         NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
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> Thanks for Aaron's informative info.
>
> Hi Charts,
>
> Seems the splitter control on the site Aaron mentioned use the DHTML
> events
> to perform the sizable function. I haven't dig deep into it , but surely
> it's a good approach. In addition, as for using frameset/frame based page,
> though it force us to separate the entire content into individual pages,
> we
> can still use the DHTML model to access the elements or fucntions across
> the frames(by clientside scripting). If you're also interested in this, we
> can also try looing further into it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steven Cheng
> Microsoft Online Support
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.)
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> | Thanks
> |
> | "Aaron Corcoran" wrote:
> |
> | > Charts,
> | >
> | > I believe that the following Web Control may be right up your alley!
> | >
> | > http://www.obout.com/splitter/
> | >
> | > Aaron
> | >
> | >
> |
>