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Why no richtextbox in Web Controls?With Microsoft's legions of programmers why must I go to a third party source
to get a richtextbox that allows the creation of webpages in a textbox? The ability to design a standard webpage using a textbox control seems like an obvious fit for a web control in Visual Studio. How about it, Bill? Also, the ability to interface with javascript is woefully lacking using C# in aspnet. Client side controls are needed to speed up processing of web pages. Dave Hi,
ASP.NET v2 is improved in many ways considering the client-side experience. It has client-side callbacks, improved client-side validation (other browsers than just IE) and so on. Check it out: http://beta.asp.net I don't know why MS has not included such control, maybe the idea has been that they don't step on third party vendor's toes (as there are a few of these controls). -- Teemu Keiski ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider Finland, EU As a vendor of third party controls, I'd like to offer you some insight why
its not to your advantage to have Microsoft develop controls that are already on the market. There are many types of controls on the ASP.NET market that are represented by several choices. Some are free. Some have quite a following, making them very polished. The key here is one idea: competition. We vendors are working hard to build software that will make you choose our stuff. In doing so, we introduce new ideas frequently, we provide tech support, and documentation. Microsoft isn't in the custom controls business. They are in the platform business (Windows, browser, and .net). The ASP.NET development team has *plenty* to do as they address a very diverse world of requirements for building web sites. Suppose they introduced a Rich Text Box control: 1. It would kill off much of the commercial versions of that because people wouldn't look further for new features. 2. People would be asking Microsoft for enhancements and spinning their wheels finding the code and hacks to address their needs. This is a waste of people's time. 3. Microsoft have a two year cycle for developing new versions of ASP.NET. Users would have to wait that long for new features. Since Microsoft isn't in the custom controls business, they will address the top requests and move on to another project. (For example, they added three new features to validators in ASP.NET 2.0. There are a multitude of issues remaining.) 4. Just because its developed by Microsoft doesn't make it *great*. Your peers are working at Microsoft developing new controls. They are also outside of Microsoft developing new controls, but without the need to focus on a much broader set of features for an ASP.NET upgrade. That focus and the equivalent skills lets them give you much more, much faster. (Again, sometimes for free.) --- Peter Blum www.PeterBlum.com Email: PLB***@PeterBlum.com Creator of "Professional Validation And More" at http://www.peterblum.com/vam/home.aspx Show quoteHide quote "Teemu Keiski" <jot***@aspalliance.com> wrote in message news:udf7RCraFHA.1660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > ASP.NET v2 is improved in many ways considering the client-side > experience. It has client-side callbacks, improved client-side validation > (other browsers than just IE) and so on. Check it out: http://beta.asp.net > > I don't know why MS has not included such control, maybe the idea has been > that they don't step on third party vendor's toes (as there are a few of > these controls). > > -- > Teemu Keiski > ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider > Finland, EU > > > Good points (thanks Peter for the explanation, haven't really ever thought
those things due to my position's technical nature), It is interesting to see how the same applies with the TreeView they have attached to v2. -- Teemu Keiski ASP.NET MVP, AspInsider Finland, EU There are already examples of these controls around, so there's no desperate
need for MS to do one - especially since it is mainly a client-side issue. http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=C8DD9D28-EAB8-4CF9-B9EB-DAD032C6A58E Besides, what usually happens is that Microsoft's server controls end up as the low-end/base versions while third party developers produce the real whiz-bang stuff. Show quoteHide quote "Parrot" <Par***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8B406DF2-3C53-4AD5-B5A3-A6A67484E461@microsoft.com... > With Microsoft's legions of programmers why must I go to a third party > source > to get a richtextbox that allows the creation of webpages in a textbox? > The > ability to design a standard webpage using a textbox control seems like an > obvious fit for a web control in Visual Studio. How about it, Bill? > Also, > the ability to interface with javascript is woefully lacking using C# in > aspnet. Client side controls are needed to speed up processing of web > pages. > > Dave > > What percentage of projects would have a need for creating webpages within a
webpage? Show quoteHide quote "Parrot" <Par***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8B406DF2-3C53-4AD5-B5A3-A6A67484E461@microsoft.com... > With Microsoft's legions of programmers why must I go to a third party source > to get a richtextbox that allows the creation of webpages in a textbox? The > ability to design a standard webpage using a textbox control seems like an > obvious fit for a web control in Visual Studio. How about it, Bill? Also, > the ability to interface with javascript is woefully lacking using C# in > aspnet. Client side controls are needed to speed up processing of web pages. > > Dave > > As the originator of this comment I want to thank everyone for their input.
Many good points have been made. I am a software developer myself and am not trying to promote Microsoft. I am developing a web based system that will allow novices to add content to a community based web site. These people would like to participate in the web world without having to be a technical expert. That is why I would like to have a good richtext editor that will allow these people to create their own simple webpages that can be displayed to the rest of the community. I have tried 3 richtext editors from third parties and they all have serious bugs, only one can I even think of using for production purposes. In addition, the cost of these software products are almost 1/3 the cost of Visual Studio Professional if you want to use the developer version. I do not want to create a web system hodge podged together with numerous third party vendors and go back into dll hell. This is my reasoning. I am not trying to make Bill Gates richer. I am just trying to develop a web based system that is relatively simple to maintain and one that nontechnical users can interract with. Show quoteHide quote "bradley" wrote: > What percentage of projects would have a need for creating webpages within a > webpage? > > "Parrot" <Par***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8B406DF2-3C53-4AD5-B5A3-A6A67484E461@microsoft.com... > > With Microsoft's legions of programmers why must I go to a third party > source > > to get a richtextbox that allows the creation of webpages in a textbox? > The > > ability to design a standard webpage using a textbox control seems like an > > obvious fit for a web control in Visual Studio. How about it, Bill? > Also, > > the ability to interface with javascript is woefully lacking using C# in > > aspnet. Client side controls are needed to speed up processing of web > pages. > > > > Dave > > > > > > >
Mystery ASP.NET Error
ImageButton bug AddHandler doesn't seem to work. Blinking Controls htmlinputfile - accept CUSTOMVALIDATOR works but page goes on on FALSE "Google Suggests" and the AJAX .NET Wrapper? CustomValidator VALIDA pero NO FUNCIONA dataformatstring for dates in datagrid Dyamically add user control, along with properties? |
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